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What I've noticed while having MSI Afterburner on and my pair of Zotac AMP 580s is that when MSI Afterburner is set on the default 1.0 and is allowed to control voltage it undervolts my GPU 2 which 3d vcore is 1.013 and causes instability. GPU 1's vcore for 3d is 1.0. I haven't noticed artifacts though, my pair would just straight crash the system or driver.

Have you tried running 3dmark or anything else with the Afterburner or similar apps off?
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evga has some quality stuff...i'll agree with that
For "quality" evga is the best. But they always seem to be more expensive and the less functional ones (for temps, clocks and features) of the 3 brands I mentioned.
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What I've noticed while having MSI Afterburner on and my pair of Zotac AMP 580s is that when MSI Afterburner is set on the default 1.0 and is allowed to control voltage it undervolts my GPU 2 which 3d vcore is 1.013 and causes instability. GPU 1's vcore for 3d is 1.0. I haven't noticed artifacts though, my pair would just straight crash the system or driver.

Have you tried running 3dmark or anything else with the Afterburner or similar apps off?
No I haven't....but I would think running any benchmark or game would be the same as...

MSI AF turned ON, but stock settings

vs

MSI AF turned OFF, stock settings

so wait, you're saying one gtx 580 AMP is 1.000 and the other is 1.013? this is only under load?
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No I haven't....but I would think running any benchmark or game would be the same as...

MSI AF turned ON, but stock settings

vs

MSI AF turned OFF, stock settings

so wait, you're saying one gtx 580 AMP is 1.000 and the other is 1.013? this is only under load?
Make sure stock settings is with MSI AB's unlock voltage control off in settings. Or just try to run the benchmark with it completely off. Yeah, one is 1.000 under load the other is 1.013.

Edit: I'm using 285.27 Beta Drivers and MSI AB 2.2.0 Beta 7
Edited by wholeeo - 9/17/11 at 5:53pm
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I ended up flashing my cards to the EVGA BIOS. This served two purposes:

1. It gave a more realistic clock/voltage combination.
2. Allowed a wider range for the fan speed.

Although, the clocks speeds are slower (772MHz), it really doesn't run noticeably slower and has proven to be more stable regardless of whatever drivers I use. It is also cools much better thanks to the higher fanspeed, when needed of course.

Be warned though that flashing your card does have its risks. But if you understand and accept them, you should see some benefit switching to that as well.
     
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I ended up flashing my cards to the EVGA BIOS. This served two purposes:

1. It gave a more realistic clock/voltage combination.
2. Allowed a wider range for the fan speed.

Although, the clocks speeds are slower (772MHz), it really doesn't run noticeably slower and has proven to be more stable regardless of whatever drivers I use. It is also cools much better thanks to the higher fanspeed, when needed of course.

Be warned though that flashing your card does have its risks. But if you understand and accept them, you should see some benefit switching to that as well.
hey cover! I actually was curious about that...because prior to buying my AMP 580, I read that there is no Zotac fan un locker. Which kinda sucks because yes I do plan to OC...and I want them at 100% fan speed to keep them cool

so did you just download the file from EVGA's forum...and its 100% compatible with the zotac? just click and done?

what risks are we talking about? voiding warranty?

EDIT: btw what is the voltage for the ref 772mhz evga?
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That's why you should not buy something that's not from evga, Asus or MSI (basically).
EVGA is overly overrated . My GTX 470 will do thousands of artifacts on stock volts. It also fails in Crysis miserably lol and end up with a driver crash. It was a terrible experiance with them. Unstable card, terrible overclocker & everything bad you can think off .
Just want to share my 2cents.

Back to OP. I had the same problem with my GTX 470. But I raised the voltage a notch and the card become stable again.

Here what I did/you should do :-
1- Download MSI Afterburner
2- Unlock voltage
3- Increase the voltage one notch.
4- Load OCCT 3.1.0 instead of OC Scanner, It is much more relliable and accurate at finding artifacts.
5- Try increasing the voltage. Until you reach the point that your card don't get errors on OCCT or OC Scanner.
6- As long as your card artifacts on your stock voltage. decreasing it doesn't seem a very wise choice. since you will make things much worse.

The card become hotter and louder? yes. but you have no other choice than to try increasing the voltage of the card or RMA it.
Edited by HeadlessKnight - 9/17/11 at 6:58pm
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not just Zotac btw, my EVGA cards came undervolted too.
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hey cover! I actually was curious about that...because prior to buying my AMP 580, I read that there is no Zotac fan un locker. Which kinda sucks because yes I do plan to OC...and I want them at 100% fan speed to keep them cool

so did you just download the file from EVGA's forum...and its 100% compatible with the zotac? just click and done?

what risks are we talking about? voiding warranty?

EDIT: btw what is the voltage for the ref 772mhz evga?
There are quite a bit of different methods to go about doing this. This post has lots of good information on how to go about flashing your card:

http://www.overclock.net/14907420-post3741.html

I, personally, copied my EVGA BIOS by using GPU-Z and then used nvflash to force flash all three of my cards to have that copy of the BIOS. The command can be found here:

http://www.overclock.net/14917622-post3762.html

Of course, I made a backup copy of the Zotac BIOS for warranty purposes in the future. I would suggest reading up as much as you can about it above before jumping head first into it, though.

As mentioned, there are risks, so be responsible in understanding them. A bad flash can mean one or more of your cards can be affected (I don't remember if you ended up buying one or two cards ). In the event your card is bricked or damaged in any way, it may not be possible to flash your card back to the original BIOS, which may lead to you being denied warranty repair or replacement. So make sure you understand that and fully know what you are doing beforehand.

As far as the reference EVGA voltage, all cards are different though as some are higher and some are lower. However, my original EVGA cards both were at 1.013V at the stock 772MHz.
     
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so what are they running right now? both EVGAs and Zotacs? 772 and voltage?
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