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is it better to use Native IDE or AHCI for a single Sata Drive

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I am wondering if should use AHCI or native IDE. I was told that AHCI is the best option but I will have to format which I do not mind doing if I get the most out of my drive
    
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Use ahci. Here is a guide on how to change it easily. smile.gif

http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7-rc-after-installation/
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post #3 of 10
Always AHCI.
The name Advanced Host Controller Interface should give that away wink.gif
post #4 of 10
Better question is why does IDE mode still exist on newer motherboards.
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Believe it or not but ide drives are still selling and purchased. It really has not been removed from the market completly.
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well i have done stress tests on both and benches etc...... ACHI is almost a 1% better.

a lot more stable as well so you will constantly get a 75meg write verse ide all over the place (note the 75 meg is just an example)
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On that board you should flip to AHCI.

IDE benchmarks the same as AHCI, but if you examine the CPU usage, you'll realize why IDE is bad.

At times when your I/O is hit the hardest (game loading?) your CPU is also hit the hardest. IDE has about 10x as much CPU usage on most boards/benchies that I've seen, so if your CPU is maxed (by game loading) your I/O speeds will end up being quite a bit lower as well.
     
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IDE = Follows the old 40/80 pin speeds of up to 100 MB/s, but never faster than 133 MB/s period.
AHCI = Faster true SATA speeds 3GB/s (or in the case of SATA 3, 6GB/s)
Edited by t0adphr0g - 9/22/11 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by t0adphr0g;15023438 
IDE = 133 MB/s period.
AHCI = 3GB/s (or in the case of SATA 3, 6GB/s)

IDE BIOS emulation is not speed capped. But it does take a heck of a lot more CPU time.

I've seen HDTune benchmarks here around 25% CPU usage in IDE mode. Flip to AHCI and it drops to 1.5-2.5% tongue.gif
     
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Originally Posted by Kramy;15023450 
IDE BIOS emulation is not speed capped. But it does take a heck of a lot more CPU time.

I've seen HDTune benchmarks here around 25% CPU usage in IDE mode. Flip to AHCI and it drops to 1.5-2.5% tongue.gif

I stand corrected. thank you, Kramy
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