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Pffff, I have my own theory on this whole thing...I think Intel's been withholding info about their chipset problem and that everyone is trying to fix something on SF end that cannot really be fixed, only maybe worked around. Way less issues in AMD camp and older systems with SATA-3 do not really report problem either, at least not nearly as frequently as H/P67/Z68s do.
And that's exactly what OCZ wants us to believe. In fact, they've now said that firmware 2.13 mimics the power settings of the Intel 510 because Intel has some settings turned off.

So that leaves only three gaping holes in your (their) theory.

1. Why does the Crucial M4 simply just work? It has superior access times and over 500mb sequential reads. If it's a chipset limitation, the M4 would be running into it as well.

2. Why has 2.13 not working for everyone given what we know it does.

3. Why, albeit at a lesser rate, do other system like X58, P55 and AMD systems still experience the problem?

If you frequent OCZ forums, you'll notice that some users have noticed changes in the 2.13 firmware that OCZ did not release in their notes about it. When asked, OCZ replies that we can only tell you what Sandforce allows us to tell you because of the non-disclosure agreement.

At some point this issue will be fixed. And we'll never know what it really was. Sandforce is currently in bed with both OCZ and Intel. Intel's next set of drives will be Sandforce powered.
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Pffff, I have my own theory on this whole thing...I think Intel's been withholding info about their chipset problem and that everyone is trying to fix something on SF end that cannot really be fixed, only maybe worked around. Way less issues in AMD camp and older systems with SATA-3 do not really report problem either, at least not nearly as frequently as H/P67/Z68s do.
That is a load of crap. I'm running an ASUS M4A89GTD AMD 890GX system and it generally reboots every 16 hours or so when running my SF-2281 drive. I put my Vertex 2 SF-1222 back in cloned the data back onto that drive and it is as stable as a rock with the same OS install. The problem is definitely with the drives whether it is the firmware or the actual controller that isn't known yet. Given that after I had my SF-2281 BSODs the drive dropped from BIOS, and wouldn't be detected again until I physically shut off the computer it could be quite the hardware bug.
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I am also having, freeze, loss of detection by the BIOS and and random reboots.

Here is what posted on OCZ forum:
I have both Vortex3 MaxIOPS 120 GB and Agility3 60 GB. flashed 2.13 (llinux) I am having random freeze and reset (due to loss of detection of Vortex3 by Asus P8Z68-V-Pro with latest 705 BIOS. I can get my machine into the sleep mode and recalled correct most of the time. However, somtimes coming from sleep will result in a freeze and after the first cold boot, the SSD V3 is not detected. I have to keep rebooting and hoping the BIOS to detect the Vortex3 SSD.

Counting me in the camp where 2.13 is not stable.

I got another BSOD with hardlock freeze after 10min. It was an F04 error.
Edited by Beiruty - 10/1/11 at 1:37pm
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Update on the 2.13 poll at the OCZ support forum.

69 people report 2.13 has helped.

78 report it has not helped.

It has also been shown in the post below that some OCZ support staff members have voted for the 2.13 helped option. IMO, given that they've kept saying that they can't create the issues been seen, they shouldn't be voting.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...l=1#post682807
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Well I gone and done it...

Probably as un-scientific as you can get, mind you, but after a week stable on 2.13 *on the Marvell SATA ports*, I swapped to the Intel SATA ports (these are all 6 gb/s ports on an ASUS P8P67 Pro).

8.6 hours later, BSOD... (update, I know this from my Logmein session I have running on this box, it reports the last time the PC was "seen" )

There you have it folks, I have NO idea WHY I'm stable on the Marvell and I get the BSOD on the Intel....

My only hope is that those smarter than I am will figure something out by this...
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Well I gone and done it...

Probably as un-scientific as you can get, mind you, but after a week stable on 2.13 *on the Marvell SATA ports*, I swapped to the Intel SATA ports (these are all 6 gb/s ports on an ASUS P8P67 Pro).

8.6 hours later, BSOD... (update, I know this from my Logmein session I have running on this box, it reports the last time the PC was "seen" )

There you have it folks, I have NO idea WHY I'm stable on the Marvell and I get the BSOD on the Intel....

My only hope is that those smarter than I am will figure something out by this...
Sorry to hear that, but remember it's also BSOD'ing on AMD systems too.
post #47 of 52
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OCZ currently has a poll going for the 2.13 firmware on their support site.

"Did firmware 2.13 help your system stability?"

24 people answered yes.

32 people answered no.
In fairness, you're way less likely to even be on the OCZ site if your SSD is working.
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why would you even answer the poll if your system didn't have stability problem?
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In fairness, you're way less likely to even be on the OCZ site if your SSD is working.
In fairness:
  • Most people who own these faulty drives out there don't even know how to update their firmware or haven't in the first place so they don't even know about the problem
  • Most people who are on OCZ with problems haven't even bothered voting since they're too busy trying to salvage their drive and are running an ever-changing, time-consuming 50000000 step "fix" that won't even work
  • Most people band-aided the problem by updating to firmware 2.09, which slowed their drive down and didn't permanently fix the issue
  • Many of these 2.09 users are waiting in the shadows for a solid FW that actually works before they even update to the latest firmware
  • Many other 2.09 simply gave up on a fix and are permanently using a slower drive
  • Many people who had faulty drives were given refunds by OCZ and went out and bought a Crucial M4 or Intel SSD, drives that actually work (Intel immediately released a firmware fix for their 320 series SSD, unlike OCZ, which is going on 5+ months now without a fix)



In all "fairness", OCZ released yet another horribly unreliable product at a premium price and backed that shoddy product up with even shoddier, piss poor, disgraceful customer service.

Do you know any company that calls their clients "spoiled children" when they complain about a product that simply DOESN'T WORK? Do you know of any company that threatens to ban, censor, and moderate customers that are rightfully complaining about a product that doesn't work???? Do you know any companies that tell their customers that "it's not only our fault, it's other companies fault too!!!"???

I don't, I don't know any company with an ounce of customer service knowledge that treats their customers like this.
Edited by i7monkey - 10/4/11 at 1:25am
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In fairness, you're way less likely to even be on the OCZ site if your SSD is working.
That logic simply cannot be applied here.

2.13 was for people WITH problems. Everybody who voted had problems with previous firmware. This is not a poll that just anyone can answer.
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