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Interesting you got 1.35 VCore with a .055 offset. I get the same VCore with .005 offset. I'm curious why, you'd think that would be constant either way.
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you probably are using a higher LLC level...he has quite a droop. He could use a lower offset to get the same volts using a higher level, level 4 isn't typically meant for OCs...
 
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post #233 of 522
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Interesting you got 1.35 VCore with a .055 offset. I get the same VCore with .005 offset. I'm curious why, you'd think that would be constant either way.
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you probably are using a higher LLC level...he has quite a droop. He could use a lower offset to get the same volts using a higher level, level 4 isn't typically meant for OCs...

do you guys think i could lower it more and see what happen? set my level to 3 and lower the offset a bit?
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I would, but it really doesn't matter, but I would try it. Most use level 2 or so.
 
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Hi guys,

I was thinking today and if I decide to buy 3rd gtx470 ... how am I going to connect cards ? I didn't get 3-Way SLI Bridge with my mb and I guess that "standard bridge" won't fit cos of PCI-E layout on this board am I right ?

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I'm using LLC 4 as well at 4.6 GHz. The level of LLC doesn't really matter in terms of how much of an OC you want. It pretty much only lowers your min VCore at idle. LLC just changes the range between min and max VCore by lowering the min VCore. As opposed to the Asus boards where LLC changes the range but increases the max and decreases the min proportionally.
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Hi guys,
I was thinking today and if I decide to buy 3rd gtx470 ... how am I going to connect cards ? I didn't get 3-Way SLI Bridge with my mb and I guess that "standard bridge" won't fit cos of PCI-E layout on this board am I right ?
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This board doesn't support Tri-SLI....
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I'm using LLC 4 as well at 4.6 GHz. The level of LLC doesn't really matter in terms of how much of an OC you want. It pretty much only lowers your min VCore at idle. LLC just changes the range between min and max VCore by lowering the min VCore. As opposed to the Asus boards where LLC changes the range but increases the max and decreases the min proportionally.

LLC just minimizes vdroop...

You'll note, in many cases anyways, if you use level 1 it will increase the volts passed what is set in bios. The ideal LLC level just makes it so the amount of vcore at load is as close to the value set in BIOS. It shouldn't have any real effect on the voltage at idle.
 
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This board doesn't support Tri-SLI....
LLC just minimizes vdroop...
You'll note, in many cases anyways, if you use level 1 it will increase the volts passed what is set in bios. The ideal LLC level just makes it so the amount of vcore at load is as close to the value set in BIOS. It shouldn't have any real effect on the voltage at idle.

You're right, I had a brain spasm. It's the other way around (I guess I haven't messed with OC enough in the last month to remember what the hell I did, lol). The Asrock doesn't decrease the min VCore when changing LLC, it increases max VCore like you mentioned. My bad........... I posted this a while back when I tested to see exactly how much of an effect LLC did have on VCore. What I said about the ASUS is correct, it differs from the Asrock in that is will distribute vdroop on both ends of the min and max when changing LLC as opposed to Asrock where it just adds it on the top end.
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I keep seeing people saying that they need to set LLC at 1....... or they need to set LLC at 5. It's all different based on your configuration and OC goals. Some can be going for 5.0GHz and be best at LLC of 2 and some could be going for 4.5GHz and be best at LLC of 5 or 1. All LLC does is widen or narrow the range of min-max VCore. I was curious to see the differences in each level in terms of VCore so last night I tested a .08 offset with all five levels.
Level 1: 1.07-1.38
Level 2: 1.07-1.42
Level 3: 1.06-1.46
Level 4: 1.08-1.5
Level 5: 1.08-1.55
So it looks like each level just increases the VCore range by adding .04 to the max VCore. As opposed to the MIVE that would add .02 to max VCore and subtract .02 from the min VCore. basically giving you the same .04 range difference.
I wanted to lower my min VCore using Level 4 LLC so I changed my offset to .06 and now it runs about 1.05-1.40 @ 4.8 GHz.

So basically LLC still doesn't have much to do with the level of OC, it's just a matter of where you can find your sweet spot using offset in conjunction with LLC to lower the min VCore. So if you want to lower your min VCore you can lower the offset and raise the LLC to offset the max VCore voltage.
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Hello everyone. I am requesting to join as an owner of this board. This is my first time on OCN but so far has been very informative and fun. After reading 22 pages I have learned a lot; thank you all.
Currently this board is sitting in a brand new Corsair 650D yearning to have a processor installed. My parts shipment got split so I got the board and CPU cooler on Friday. It has been a long weekend of waiting. The rest of my components should arrive shortly and I can finally get my hands dirty with this board. I will share more about my build once I finish and dial in my overclock.
I will go update the OP! Welcome to OCN and to the club biggrin.gif
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So I'm reading some of these BIOS settings from members who submitted their current OC's and I wonder. I understand that some all CPU's are not created equal and some OC better than others even though they are the exact same models. But can they really be that different? I've OC'ed mine to 5.0 and everything worked pretty well. But I wasn't happy with the VCore needed to get to that point. So I settled for 4.6. But I tried a couple of the 5.0 settings from other users and my comp doesn't even want to think about booting much less pass any P95 tests. Can CPU's really be that far off from each other?
Also, can too much thermal compound really make a CPU run that much hotter? I know I don't have too little, if anything it's a little bit much, but it's not to the point of overflowing off the side and I'm getting temps well into the 80's with VCore around 1.4. It would hit 90's if I let it go long enough. I only have an H50 but from what I have read an H70 or H100 doesn't make that much of a difference.
What kind of thermal compound and how much did you use? If you use much more than a grain of rice you're doing it wrong.
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I would, but it really doesn't matter, but I would try it. Most use level 2 or so.
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