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Gosh, I really hate vague and stupid questions, but now I am about to ask one.

Briefly, I need a wireless home video surveillance system.

1) 4-5 indoor cameras; option to add one day/night vision outdoor camera
2) recording to either a DVR or fed to my computer (?), DVR being preferable.
3) all cameras - full recording and not "sequential"
4) 8 hrs. minimum of recording time and then option to dump each set of 8 hrs. of recording to a HD for date stamping and categorizing (I have enough TB's of HDD storage to download the entire Library of Congress. eek.gif)

I haven't purchased a system for 10-15 years (wired) so short of reading reviews all over the net, I am now clueless as to what is reliable and cost effective. As an active, and quite annoying (at times), member of OCN, I have grown to trust you guys as family. No one has misled me yet. thumbsupsmiley.png

Recommendations Please!


Thanks in advance. smile.gif
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It's about bedtime for me, so if you don't mind, I'm going to quote myself from an older thread... smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Lost Hawaiian;14551705 
I don't see a link to the one you're referring to, but I will ask what kind of budget you have and how many cameras do you need? Also, do you have need for any special types of cameras?

At my work we use mainly Lorex systems, but also have a few Mace and SecurityLabs. Plus there's a bunch that you can find that are "house specials". If you want a quality systems with many options, I would recommend Lorex or Mace. Since you want to protect your business, you want to make sure the system does what you need and is reliable.

I have seen some systems that come from Sam's Club, or different electronics stores that aren't bad either. The biggest problem I run into is that a lot of different manufacturers are very proprietary. Some use 6-pin din, some RCA, some BNC, and even with the proper physical adapters they sometimes don't play well together.

If you get a system with a dedicated DVR, you can put in your own HDD. Most of the older ones we have in our company came with 80GB drives which I have been swapping out. The newer DVR's we buy come with 250-500GB. It also depends on how many cameras and how long you want to retain the data.

Output from the DVR's are usually BNC or VGA. If you have a BNC output you can convert it to VGA with a VGA02 converter.
RCA to BNC just takes an adapter, then can be converted to VGA.

If you can give a few more details of exactly what you'd like to do, I can probably help you out a little better.

Just my 2c worth...hope it helps,

Rich

One of the many hats I wear is the "security specialist" for our 50 restaurant locations. I've had to deal with a lot of different setups. I generally recommend Lorex brand-wise since they have a lot of options, and are easy to install.

The first thing to do is figure how much you want to put into a system. You can get a good 4-8 camera package with DVR for under $500 if you shop wisely. Most of the ones I've installed run around $800-$1000, but that's with 8 cameras of different types for different locations inside and outside. You can set them up to record continuously, on a timer, or only when they detect motion. You can also adjust picture resolution and frame rate for your optimum quality/record time.

If you let me know a little more about what you're looking to accomplish, I can give you more specific recommendations.

Rich
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Whoa! An absolute wealth of information and lots of questions I need to answer. Quite honestly, I'm glad you're tired and need to catch up on your sleep - or I would have information overload. redface.gif
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You can set them up to record continuously, on a timer, or only when they detect motion.
Such features are obvious "desirables" and were definitely not available when I last set up a wired (ugh!) system in my business.
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You can also adjust picture resolution and frame rate for your optimum quality/record time.
Again, very, very useful!

For the time being I'll look at
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Lorex or Mace

Before I unwittingly make a fool out of myself, I shall pursue some of the suggestions you made and then compose my questions accordingly.

Awful darned kind of you to share your experience and expertise so generously. Thanks! yessir.gif
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Sorry not to have gotten back to you sooner. I have done a little bit of study and am hopefully a little bit more savvy now.

I looked at a number of products but kept coming back to what you recommended:

1) http://www.lorextechnology.com/camera-security-systems.html

Specifically: 2) http://sylvaniastore.lorextechnology.com/product.aspx?id=1975

I liked the Lorex because they seem to provide a nice compromise between the low-priced consumer products and the "overkill" products like SmartVue. Mace all appear to be Wired Only.?

While I am not looking for "military grade", I would like the following features:

1) Must be Wireless

2) Degree of clarity and range of (wide angle) vision in 3 very small rooms (Bedroom, Den and Kitchen + 1 outdoor, all-weather, night vision camera)

3) Definitely need Audio Recording as well as Video Recording

4) Ability to set cameras by timer and/or motion detection (activity tends to take place in 1-2 rooms (max) at a time (Question: If camera is motion activated, what happens in the event that people are still in the room but sit down, lie down or become sedentary? Does the camera stop recording? I'm guessing that time activated might be the safer way to go..??)

5) I like the fact that I can monitor these cameras from my computer while I am working.

6) Ability to record, log and archive in my computer HDD.

7) Range of Wifi through interior and exterior walls. ++ Security of signal to prevent snooping

Reason for the need: My Mom is 89 years old and has caregivers during the daytime. The behavior of such workers can vary from quite attentive and caring to downright scurrilous, so I would like evidence to support my case if or when I need to contact to the agency.

Sorry to be such a World-Class PITA but I sure do appreciate your assistance. smile.gif
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The system you linked does look good. From what I can find, that's a pretty good price for that equipment also.

Just FYI, the systems I usually put in our stores run around about $900-$1000. I use an 8-channel triplex DVR with all wired cameras. I had tried wireless, but could never get the signal where I wanted to mount the cameras. I doubt if you'll run into the same problem since you probably won't have the distances and probably won't have to go through as much metal construction as well as electrical and mechanical equipment.

I think you'll be happy if you go with Lorex. The quality is very good. I've only had to replace one complete unit, and that was after being smashed with a sledgehammer. I have swapped out HDD's quite a bit. The older systems that were in place were 4 channel with only 80GB HDD's. They would record 24/7 for about 5 days with 4 cameras set to medium quality at 15 FPS. I swapped them out for 500GB HDD's so we can go about a month before it overwrites itself.

As far as using the sensors to trigger recording...we don't use this feature, but I have played with it. You can set the DVR to start recording when it senses motion, and then you set the duration of the recording. I don't know how it would work out if you had a person sleeping. You probably would be better off just setting it to a schedule.

Hope this helps,

Rich

Edit: I've been doing some reading of the manuals.

http://lorexstore.lorextechnology.com/pdfs/LH400_SERIES_MANUAL_EN_R1_WEB.pdf

At the bottom of page 18 it says that it only records one channel. It refers to page 83 which shows only one audio input...thinking.gif If you need to have audio in more than one room, you might need a different model...

Here's the camera manual...

http://sylvaniastore.lorextechnology.com/pdfs/LW2201_Series_MANUAL_EN_R3.pdf

After reviewing these, I have a few questions myself...First the aforementioned lack of multiple audio signals, and then I can't tell if you need to have a special camera for motion sensing...I'm guessing not, since they don't have any special input for them.

In any case, this looks like it should do the job as long as you don't need to hear everything in every room.

Another option to a full system is a covert system. I purchased one of these awhile back.

LawMate PV1000


I use it to copy video from our stores whenever we need to have documentation. I had to have a way to get it to CD in a format that could be viewed on any computer. (Our police departments are nothing like CSI or Law & Order...tongue.gif).

Besides being a great portable DVR, you can attach a camera to it and hide it anywhere you like. It has the same features and is a great option if you don't want folks to know you are recording them. The only drawback is you wouldn't have the multi-room coverage.
Edited by Lost Hawaiian - 9/28/11 at 6:08pm
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Check out this website, Wireless Video Surveillance. It may have some useful information.
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I was in the say situation choosing the cameras and the software for my CCTV. I have made a thorogh research and have chosen Xeoma software and D-Link IP cams.
The software met all my expectations and even more. Plus the price is ridiculous! Just around $20 per channel.
Good luck!
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