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As it was pointed out to me elsewhere, Kill-a-Watt has accuracy issues and could be a fair amount off from correct current draw from the socket. So take these values with a grain of salt as a very rough estimate, as the real value could be significantly higher. Example:
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1032190998&postcount=7

Very interesting....

Then again it makes sense, we are talking about a $20 meter, generally you get what you pay for with test equipment. If you want something that is calibrated and accurate you would have to spend significantly more than what the Kill-A-Watt retails for.

Then again, even with this said, I still trust the readings given from the Kill-A-Watt over what some of the PSU calculators spit out.
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no worries, they correspond pretty well to what sites like TPU get for their gpu values anyway
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It would be nice to see the power savings from the new ivy bridge chips.
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I have a 3770 as of a couple days ago (as well as a new Silverstone SFX 450 Watt 80+ gold PSU) and will update my list with my new system soon.
   
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I have a 3770 as of a couple days ago (as well as a new Silverstone SFX 450 Watt 80+ gold PSU) and will update my list with my new system soon.

Awesome thanks!
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New system with Seasonic's new G-360 80+ Gold power supply! (not the one I said I'd do - I settled for this one instead). Loving it so far - so quiet.
http://www.seasonicusa.com/G-series-360.htm

Using efficiency of 89.7% for 40-60% load average from HardwareSecrets review (should be more like 87% efficient at low loads, but we're using the same value here)

The processor is undervolted at -0.1V for now. I have a 4.3GHz profile that I'll test later - just haven't had any need to run it at that. The card is currently at stock, factory-overclocked ASUS DCII GTX 670 TOP.

i7 3770 @ 3.9GHz @ -0.1V offset . ASRock Z77E-ITX . (2) 1.45V Memory . (1) GTX 670 @ 1058-1220MHz @ 1.175V . (1) HDD . (1) SDD . (3) ~5W Fans . Seasonic G-360 SSR-360GP 360W @ 89.7% Eff.

Max Values:
Idle (screen off) : 47 Watts. -> 89.7% = 42W
Idle (screen on) : 50 Watts. -> 89.7% = 45W
Prime95 Large FFT : 115 Watts. -> 89.7% = 103W
Furmark Burn-In Test : 243 Watts. -> 89.7% = 218W <-- this is lower because I forgot to disable Lucid Virtu for FurMark
OCCT GPU stress test : 235 Watts. -> 89.7% = 211W <-- Lucid Virtu assistance, full utilization for 10 minutes
Prime95 Large FFT + Furmark : 255 Watts. -> 89.7% = 229W <-- with Lucid Virtu on for FurMark, so lower power consumption
Prime95 Large FFT + OCCT : 292 Watts. -> 89.7% = 262W <-- max consumption after 10 minutes of running both simultaneously, without Lucid Virtu
Game (WoW) : 185 Watts. -> 89.7% = 166W <-- typical not-too-demanding game
Game (GW2) : 250 Watts. -> 89.7% = 224W <-- very demanding game
Browsing the web : 72 Watts. -> 89.7% = 65W

So yes, my 360-Watt power supply is small but mighty! Going to add 2 more fans and a fan controller next week (already added to the profile system, but they'll be installed next week!)

Even though Kill-A-Watt measurements are not entirely accurate, I know my PSU isn't stretched to the limit, because during those stress tests I did not hear its fan kick into the max RPM. It's supposed to get very noticeable at max-RPM, corresponding to max load, which never happened (the fan RPM for this PSU is tied to load, not temperatures). I believe I got to moderate loads, but not close to max, so I'm inclined to believe those numbers. The PSU runs very cool. As my CPU and GPU were around 70C during stress tests, the air blowing out of the PSU was cool.
Edited by ElevenEleven - 9/17/12 at 12:14pm
   
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New system with Seasonic's new G-360 80+ Gold power supply! (not the one I said I'd do - I settled for this one instead). Loving it so far - so quiet.
http://www.seasonicusa.com/G-series-360.htm
Using efficiency of 89.7% for 40-60% load average from HardwareSecrets review (should be more like 87% efficient at low loads, but we're using the same value here)
The processor is undervolted at -0.1V for now. I have a 4.3GHz profile that I'll test later - just haven't had any need to run it at that. The card is currently at stock, factory-overclocked ASUS DCII GTX 670 TOP.
i7 3770 @ 3.9GHz @ -0.1V offset . ASRock Z77E-ITX . (2) 1.45V Memory . (1) GTX 670 @ 1058-1220MHz @ 1.175V . (1) HDD . (1) SDD . (3) ~5W Fans . Seasonic G-360 SSR-360GP 360W @ 89.7% Eff.
Max Values:
Idle (screen off) : 47 Watts. -> 89.7% = 42.2W
Idle (screen on) : 50 Watts. -> 89.7% = 44.9W
Prime95 Large FFT : 115 Watts. -> 89.7% = 103.2W
Furmark Burn-In Test : 243 Watts. -> 89.7% = 218.0W
Prime95 Large FFT + Furmark : 255 Watts. -> 89.7% = 228.7W
Game (WoW) : 185 Watts. -> 89.7% = 165.9W <-- typical not-too-demanding game
Game (GW2) : 250 Watts. -> 89.7% = 224.3W <-- very demanding game
Browsing the web : 72 Watts. -> 89.7% = 64.6W
So yes, my 360-Watt power supply is small but mighty! Going to add 2 more fans and a fan controller next week (already added to the profile system, but they'll be installed next week!)
Even though Kill-A-Watt measurements are not entirely accurate, I know my PSU isn't stretched to the limit, because during those stress tests I did not hear its fan kick into the max RPM. It's supposed to get very noticeable at max-RPM, corresponding to max load, which never happened (the fan RPM for this PSU is tied to load, not temperatures). I believe I got to moderate loads, but not close to max, so I'm inclined to believe those numbers. The PSU runs very cool. As my CPU and GPU were around 70C during stress tests, the air blowing out of the PSU was cool.
holy crap, looks like I should build a computer just like you to prove power can be achieved without using alot of power biggrin.gif
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Interesting, I7 3770 is rated at 77 watt, I expect not using HD4000 and under volting diminishes that by a good bit.(60 watt?
The 670 idles around 13 watt and max varies with reviewers and OC. Reading 160 watt to 280 watt, a considerable spread?!
228.7 watts seems a reasonable possibility. Official TDP is 170 watts.
Edited by brasslad - 9/17/12 at 11:24am
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Interesting, I7 3770 is rated at 77 watt, I expect not using HD4000 and under volting diminishes that by a good bit.(60 watt?
The 670 idles around 13 watt and max varies with reviewers and OC. Reading 160 watt to 280 watt, a considerable spread?!
228.7 watts seems a reasonable possibility. Official TDP is 170 watts.

Update: Re-ran stress tests using OCCT this time with Lucid Virtu off. New max value is 262 Watts after 10 minutes of OCCT (active window) + Prime95 Large FFT in the background.

I actually have HD graphics enabled for Virtu to shave off some GPU load (and temperatures) in games. Didn't realize Furmark is among the programs Virtu MVP affects by default, so I turned it off now. But at idle Virtu is disabled by default when not running applications that trigger its utilization (usually games and some benchmarks, like Heaven 3.0 - it's customizable though).

Re: CPU wattage - I undervolt for everything (CPU-wise and RAM-wise -- not GPU). Even my 4.3GHz profile (for 2 top cores, then 4.2 for 3 and 4.1 for all 4) is at -0.06V offset voltage. Seems reasonable to keep temperatures as low as possible and therefore quieter fans.
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Just ran OCCT on my stock 3570k and GTX 570. 340W at the wall. Not bad. Gonna get some overclocked numbers soon
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