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Just my experience with my 3.5G, can;t believe I didn't post here sooner.

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- Windows 7 12.1 Catalyst drivers + USB filter

My preferred settings are:
- 1800 DPI
- 1000 MHz pooling
- tad above 7 Windows sensitivity
- no acceleration



I'm able to top out at 960 MHz polling in F-Stream software, no driver issues, no mouse lag or freezing, all buttons work and can be re-configured.
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Hi,
I just got my razor deathadder 3.5g about a few hours ago, and I love the shape and feel of the mouse, but the buttons are terrible. I wonder do I have a faulty one? Or would using the wrong driver and firmware version cause problems?
ok, here is the story, After taking ages to decide what mouse I wanted, I finally picked the razor deathadder black edition. What actually came was the razor deathadder respawn. Now after some more reading I think the BE and respawn are the same except for the rubber on the side of the BE edition. Or have I got that wrong?
My problems are. (I am right handed BTW)
1. Trying to play counterstrike I notice that sometimes the left mouse button just stops working. I am pressing but there is nothing happening. The mouse button doesnt click when this happens. I haven't noticed it on windows yet, but I don't press the button as often.
2. the right mouse button is very sensitive, even just resting my finger on it can sometimes cause it to work. It doesn't make any noise, but yet things happen, like in cs putting the silencer on my M4.
3. when I first plugged it in the dpi in the driver panel only went up as 1800. But after a reboot it went away. Whenever I try to update the firmware the software tells me that it's for 3.5g mouse only.
So are any of these problems common place? can they be fixed by me without sending the mouse back?
I would think this would be an issue, but would the mouse have problems with USB 3 ports? and works better with USB 2?
Thanks for reading.

I had no similar problems even when plugged into a usb 3 port. I think you have got a bad death adder (if the firmware and drivers are updated through the deathadder customization program)

If you have up to date firmware and drivers Id RMA the mouse.
 
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Hi,
I just got my razor deathadder 3.5g about a few hours ago, and I love the shape and feel of the mouse, but the buttons are terrible. I wonder do I have a faulty one? Or would using the wrong driver and firmware version cause problems?
ok, here is the story, After taking ages to decide what mouse I wanted, I finally picked the razor deathadder black edition. What actually came was the razor deathadder respawn. Now after some more reading I think the BE and respawn are the same except for the rubber on the side of the BE edition. Or have I got that wrong?
My problems are. (I am right handed BTW)
1. Trying to play counterstrike I notice that sometimes the left mouse button just stops working. I am pressing but there is nothing happening. The mouse button doesnt click when this happens. I haven't noticed it on windows yet, but I don't press the button as often.
2. the right mouse button is very sensitive, even just resting my finger on it can sometimes cause it to work. It doesn't make any noise, but yet things happen, like in cs putting the silencer on my M4.
3. when I first plugged it in the dpi in the driver panel only went up as 1800. But after a reboot it went away. Whenever I try to update the firmware the software tells me that it's for 3.5g mouse only.
So are any of these problems common place? can they be fixed by me without sending the mouse back?
I would think this would be an issue, but would the mouse have problems with USB 3 ports? and works better with USB 2?
Thanks for reading.

That's not right. The buttons are VERY tactile and clicky. They take some (not a lot, but you still have to TRY) force to press and when you press it you know it. The only time I've had a deathadder fail to recognize clicks properly is when the side button on one of mine literally snapped in half and was no longer making proper contact with the switch. Even then I was able to repair it with some glue.

Your issues with the drivers may or may not have something to do with USB3. I have no idea TBH but I'm somewhat doubtful. I've never had issues with the drivers on any of my Deathadders on any of the computers I've used them on.

Lastly, you were shipped the wrong item to begin with, and it isn't even working. Why roll over and take it? Send it back for sure, demand the correct product, and a new one, not some broken return item.
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Here in Australia, a black edition is more expensive than a respawn. I wouldn't take that.
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Thanks for the replies guys.

@darkpriest and @Zero4549 Cheers guys, just making sure that the mouse was the problem. I knew it was, but had to make sure anyway, because I hate returning things, I am am going to hate going back to the logitch G9 that I have because the deathadder is just so perfect for my hand and really accurate. I am half tempted to take it apart and see if it's just a simple dirt problem. RMA is a pain in the ass for me as I have to return it to a different country.

@end0rphine really? well, here the Respawn is more expensive than the black edition smile.gif

And I understand what you guys are saying that I got the wrong mouse, but, it's not really an issue as I was debating between the two and went for the BE because it was cheaper thumb.gif I just wish it worked is all. I have tried it in a USB 2 port since and still got the same issue and the software still doesn't see what firmware I have installed and the updating program keeps saying I don't have a 3.5G mouse mad.gif

Yeah I guess it's RMA time. Damn!!
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Is this mouse good for RTS games like Starcraft 2 for its price? It seems like a better mouse for FPSes since its pretty bulky

Are there better mice on the market at a DA's price point for RTS games (plan to also use it to play some FPS games later)? I have avg sized hands and use fingertip-claw grip
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Thanks for the replies guys.
@darkpriest and @Zero4549 Cheers guys, just making sure that the mouse was the problem. I knew it was, but had to make sure anyway, because I hate returning things, I am am going to hate going back to the logitch G9 that I have because the deathadder is just so perfect for my hand and really accurate. I am half tempted to take it apart and see if it's just a simple dirt problem. RMA is a pain in the ass for me as I have to return it to a different country.
@end0rphine really? well, here the Respawn is more expensive than the black edition smile.gif
And I understand what you guys are saying that I got the wrong mouse, but, it's not really an issue as I was debating between the two and went for the BE because it was cheaper thumb.gif I just wish it worked is all. I have tried it in a USB 2 port since and still got the same issue and the software still doesn't see what firmware I have installed and the updating program keeps saying I don't have a 3.5G mouse mad.gif
Yeah I guess it's RMA time. Damn!!

Definitely return it bro, you have a defective unit. No mouse should have faulty and inconsistent clicks. Are you able to return it to the store? While razer's RMA is quite long (and frustrating) the mouse will eventually get to you. Be prepared to write 7-8 emails and be prepared to answer the same question a few times; support speed-reads these emails and you'll find yourself repeating yourself many times.
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Is this mouse good for RTS games like Starcraft 2 for its price? It seems like a better mouse for FPSes since its pretty bulky
Are there better mice on the market at a DA's price point for RTS games (plan to also use it to play some FPS games later)? I have avg sized hands and use fingertip-claw grip

I'm an FPS and an RTS/Action-RTS player and I can tell you the DA is better as an RTS mouse. Claw grip / fingertip grip doesn't really matter in RTS since units are easy to click on with just palm grip alone. Fast-paced FPS games benefit the most from fingertip grip since miniscule movements can determine whether or not you make the shot.

Keep in mind that while FPS games do benefit the most from fingertip grip individual playstyle and preference matter more than theoretical mice models. For example, while most FPS players say fingertip grip is the best for FPS games, YZ50, one of the best TF2 scouts of all time, with some of the best twitch-aiming skill in the world palm-grips a Deathadder.

What works out for you is based on your preference. If fingertip/clawgrip is your preferred choice I would steer clear of the Deathadder. If you're into small mice, which for me is the most comfortable choice when I like to fingertip grip, I would try making a Kinzuadder. It has the Deathadder's accuracy in a small Kinzu formfactor.
Edited by hella - 3/14/12 at 12:21pm
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I'm an FPS and an RTS/Action-RTS player and I can tell you the DA is better as an RTS mouse. Claw grip / fingertip grip doesn't really matter in RTS since units are easy to click on with just palm grip alone. Fast-paced FPS games benefit the most from fingertip grip since miniscule movements can determine whether or not you make the shot.
Keep in mind that while FPS games do benefit the most from fingertip grip individual playstyle and preference matter more than theoretical mice models. For example, while most FPS players say fingertip grip is the best for FPS games, YZ50, one of the best TF2 scouts of all time, with some of the best twitch-aiming skill in the world palm-grips a Deathadder.
What works out for you is based on your preference. If fingertip/clawgrip is your preferred choice I would steer clear of the Deathadder. If you're into small mice, which for me is the most comfortable choice when I like to fingertip grip, I would try making a Kinzuadder. It has the Deathadder's accuracy in a small Kinzu formfactor.

Oddly enough, I fingertip my deathadders in fps and other quick paced action games (assassins creed for instance). Otherwise I palm it. I have very small hands and yet I still find it is the most comfortable mouse when you account for BOTH positions. I wouldn't really want to claw a deathadder, but then I can't understand the appeal of clawing a mouse in general.

At any rate the DA is an excellent mouse for ANYTHING as long as it doesn't require special needs. The biggest downside to the deathadder is it's lack of additional features. If you want to play an MMO exclusively with the 300 buttons found on mouse like the naga or the RAT MMO, then the deathadder just wont work. If you're expecting to instantly change dpi on the fly, it is again a bad choice. For everything else, it has an excellent shape and sensor.
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I find that the deathadder is almost designed for claw grip. I can wrest my palm on the back slope, and use my fingers in a claw like fashion. So far I'm liking it.
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Is this mouse good for RTS games like Starcraft 2 for its price? It seems like a better mouse for FPSes since its pretty bulky
Are there better mice on the market at a DA's price point for RTS games (plan to also use it to play some FPS games later)? I have avg sized hands and use fingertip-claw grip

ANY game benefits from having a more accurate sensor, and the shaping of the deathadder lends to being used in any of the 3 major grip patterns.

I am going to test the crap out of it tonite playing some starcraft, although using it at work is proving to be fairly enjoyable.
Edited by aynjell - 3/14/12 at 1:46pm
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