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I have to say, after about 8 months of using my deathadder 3g black edition it's starting to show some beautiful wear. The back where my lower palm meets the mouse is starting to get rough and the thin rubber they put on the grey surface is gone. Underneath is a rough, sandy black plastic that feels great.
The surface actually feels better now than when it did brand new. The rubber does not peel when worn, and visibly, I can't tell where the rubber has gone. Right now, I have to admit that the black edition shell has gotten better with age. The side rubber hasn't peeled yet and is still in great shape.
For those of you who hated the grime in the regular deathadder, the black edition for you. I would recommend any of you to pick up the BE after your standard deathadder hits the dust. Cheers biggrin.gif

That also happened to my Black Edition. I don't like how it feels because the surface is not completely rough.
    
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Feet last pretty long on my razer pads, roughly 1-2 years. They wear slightly faster on the control editions but also tend to wear "rounder" (rather than flatter on the speed editions) which I feel actually gives them a nicer glide.
I cant comment on the ozone pad, I've never used it.
What feet did you use? I use Hyperglides and Core Pads (depending on availability and pricing. All things being equal I'd pick hypers but its really a very minor difference). The replacement feet from Razer are pretty much crap. Dunno about other companies.
If the Ozone pad is working for you, great. Just stick with that I guess if you're good with that. I can't really explain why your Goliathus is skipping. I've got doubled feet, tape, and even a sensor with lower LOD (3G v2) in the same body as your BE and it works fine.
Do you have a lot of dust or grime buildup on your sensor lens? What settings do you use on the drivers / windows?

Lo Zero,

Thanks for your reply smile.gif

I use the corepad ones (you recommend me those ones a few pages back tongue.gif), because hyperglides are difficult to get on my country and the shipment is very expensive.
Well the ozone it's not much different than the normal qck... it has a little bit better glide and it's cheaper than qck (actually i was impressed by it's quality).
I don't have a lot of dust, especially because i had the sensor covered with tape, I only removed when i double the feet, because tracking seems better without the tape, for some reason i loved the very low LOD but the tracking was very strange.....
I'm using 900dpi\cpi, 6\11 on win7 and acceleration off.

Once again thanks for your help smile.gif
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Hi,
Is there any difference between 1000hz polling rate vs 500Hz polling rate other than how many times it updates it position/sec? What it actually transaltes into real-world performance? I'm currently using 900DPI@1000Hz, 1080p (DA BE).
Edited by tech99 - 4/24/12 at 1:38am
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Lo Zero,
Thanks for your reply smile.gif
I use the corepad ones (you recommend me those ones a few pages back tongue.gif), because hyperglides are difficult to get on my country and the shipment is very expensive.
Well the ozone it's not much different than the normal qck... it has a little bit better glide and it's cheaper than qck (actually i was impressed by it's quality).
I don't have a lot of dust, especially because i had the sensor covered with tape, I only removed when i double the feet, because tracking seems better without the tape, for some reason i loved the very low LOD but the tracking was very strange.....
I'm using 900dpi\cpi, 6\11 on win7 and acceleration off.
Once again thanks for your help smile.gif

Can you try 1800 DPI with lower sensitivity in games and see how that works for a few days? It will obviously take some getting used to in windows (don't change the windows settings just yet during this test) but in most well programmed games the lower sensitivity should completely compensate for the higher DPI.

The reason I ask is because the DA (even the 3.5g / 3500dpi versions) track best at 1800.

See if that helps at all.
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Hi,
Is there any difference between 1000hz polling rate vs 500Hz polling rate other than how many times it updates it position/sec? What it actually transaltes into real-world performance? I'm currently using 900DPI@1000Hz, 1080p (DA BE).

Polling rate is just like you said, the frequency of it's updates. In theory, it doesn't matter since your monitor is never going to reach or exceed even the lowest polling rate option.

The problem is your display frequency and polling frequency are not synced so even at identical rates, there will always be some minor inconsistencies.

The higher the polling rate, the quicker the mouse will recognize a movement. It will also be able to pick up on small back-and-forth movements which occur quicker than a single period of it's cycle on a lower frequency.

In other words, 1000hz will give you a truer representation of actual mouse movement. Anything lower has a greater chance of slight inconsistencies between your movement and the cursor's movement. The difference is small but it does exist.

That all said, higher polling rate means slightly more CPU power is being used, but assuming you aren't running on a 10MHz processor, its a moot point. High polling rates can also be bad for people with serious micro tremors or really really bad mouse-pads.
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I tested many mousepads (cloth) and the best one (at least for DA, havent tested any other mice) is by far Goliathus Control Edition. All of the others have mostly the same texture as QcK, Goliathus speed, Taito etc etc which make them wear out pretty easily (a couple of months). Not the case with Goli Control, 1 year passed and no worn out parts whatsoever. I'll always stick with this pad.
I can't believe your mouse is working well if you're saying it tracks badly on goli control. I've also DA BE, and Corepads over the default feet and it feel just great!
post #306 of 2468
Just plugged in my 2nd DA Black Edition. I'm just amazed by how much better this beast feels in my hand after using the G400. Actually this DA feels even better than the DA I had to RMA, because it had a bump on the paint on LMB. Going to use this for a few weeks to see if it works perfectly or not and then going to double up the feet with the hyperglies I already bought. Wish me luck. wink.gif
     
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post #307 of 2468
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Can you try 1800 DPI with lower sensitivity in games and see how that works for a few days? It will obviously take some getting used to in windows (don't change the windows settings just yet during this test) but in most well programmed games the lower sensitivity should completely compensate for the higher DPI.
The reason I ask is because the DA (even the 3.5g / 3500dpi versions) track best at 1800.
See if that helps at all.

Lo Zero,

Yes i'll try and change it to 1800 dpi\cpi and in a few days i'll come back to give my feedback... yeah it takes some time to get used in windows but i'll manage, since in games i don't see any problem =)
Once again thank you for helping me.
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I tested many mousepads (cloth) and the best one (at least for DA, havent tested any other mice) is by far Goliathus Control Edition. All of the others have mostly the same texture as QcK, Goliathus speed, Taito etc etc which make them wear out pretty easily (a couple of months). Not the case with Goli Control, 1 year passed and no worn out parts whatsoever. I'll always stick with this pad.
I can't believe your mouse is working well if you're saying it tracks badly on goli control. I've also DA BE, and Corepads over the default feet and it feel just great!

Lo Aquaris,

Well i tested also on two pads,... ozone ground level (its almost the same as a quick, goliathus speed etc) and goliathus control. DA tracks perfectly on ozone but on control pad it seems to skip... i tested also G400 and it tracked very well on both pads... it even tracks great on my wood table... DA also skips on it...
Could you please tell me which dpi are you using? (i prefer 900dpi, but i know DA tracks best @1800).

Thanks
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post #308 of 2468
I wish I could explain faster or better, but I'm limited on time:

The 900 CPI value is fine. I doubt many people will reach hindering speeds with specific pads.

1800 CPI with lower sensitivity (Default m_yaw and pitch) isn't exactly a good idea if you're looking for that right feel of cursor control you've had with other mice or settings.

1000hz isn't better nor worse than the soft capped values of 1000/2 =500hz or 1000/8 = 125hz. 1000hz is actually more inconsistent if you're not constantly reaching max speed while playing. =x
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I wish I could explain faster or better, but I'm limited on time:

The 900 CPI value is fine. I doubt many people will reach hindering speeds with specific pads.

1800 CPI with lower sensitivity (Default m_yaw and pitch) isn't exactly a good idea if you're looking for that right feel of cursor control you've had with other mice or settings.

1000hz isn't better nor worse than the soft capped values of 1000/2 =500hz or 1000/8 = 125hz. 1000hz is actually more inconsistent if you're not constantly reaching max speed while playing. =x

I'm curious how many boards even support > 500 MHz polling. I know my Fatal1ty 990FX board with a "Fatal1ty Mouse Port" and it can reach about 950 MHz while the other USB ports barely touch 600 MHz.

From my own testing 3500 DPI is way too twitchy on a cloth pad, never tried it on a solid pad though. And for polling rates, I leave it at only 500 MHz anyway because anything over that will start to pick up my bodies natural vibrations.
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While I love the shape of the Deathadder, I think I'll be selling it. Have had it since BE release. While the skates fix the belly dragging and reduce LOD, still a nightmare for me to pick up. It just feels so slippery in my hands. I have very dry hands while gaming, not sure if thats the problem.
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