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It could simply be that the shell is different. That could effect response both on actuation and deactivation. You could bend the internals of the switch or add a buffer to decrease the time and pressure to actuate. It is a leaf spring and a magnet so variation is unavoidable.
How do you use that site?

The site I linked (or a similar site here - http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/index.php) I use by doing repetitions in large amounts (around 50 usually), and comparing the averages between mice.

How would you recommend bending the internals of the switch to make the response time faster?
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http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=506750&sid=9cc68f36c3e79966420af50f43f2f9f3
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I've got the same slow input times as zprotoss has. I do not have Synapse, but do have the archived drivers installed

My IME3.0 and Logitech mouses register clicks consistently faster than the DA:BE.


I'll give the Silencing mod a try. I've been looking to silence the mouse anyways.
Edited by jjpjimmy - 10/23/12 at 10:45pm
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Are these slow inputs being experienced on synapse 2.0? That whole thing is a mess. Never had any issues with my Deathsdders without it.
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Mine's still clicking away!

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Just finished applying the silencing to the mouse and trying out the Human Benchmark's test...

Before 175 (absolute lowest) ~ 220ms

after 143 (absolute lowest) ~ 200ms, very easy sub 200ms on most of them.



If there's a problem with this mod is that the pressure difference from middle button to the rest of them are massively different now.
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So I think it's worth mentioning here - why have people never gone out of their way to rate mice on button reaction speed?

Given that people are able to get tremendous improvements in reaction speed by doing extremely ghetto mods, I can imagine that those gains can be made much more significant by using microswitches that trigger with less force.

For reference, the poster above me ended up with an almost 20% gain on the fastest end of the spectrum, and roughly a 10% gain (probably more on average noting what he said) on the slower end. That difference is massive. Yet, it's completely ignored on almost all levels. Why?
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So I think it's worth mentioning here - why have people never gone out of their way to rate mice on button reaction speed?
Given that people are able to get tremendous improvements in reaction speed by doing extremely ghetto mods, I can imagine that those gains can be made much more significant by using microswitches that trigger with less force.
For reference, the poster above me ended up with an almost 20% gain on the fastest end of the spectrum, and roughly a 10% gain (probably more on average noting what he said) on the slower end. That difference is massive. Yet, it's completely ignored on almost all levels. Why?

Almost all mice use the same switches, and the user has significantly more impact on the "reaction time" than the switch itself.
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Almost all mice use the same switches

That's exactly my point. Unlike tracking performance which the gold standard that mouse manufacturers pride themselves on, the quality of the buttons being used is mostly uniform across most brands. Even though there are very clear performance benefits to be gained from either drastically breaking in your mouse, or simply doing a modification as mentioned a bit earlier in the thread.

I don't have the technical skill to easily pull it off, but it'd be interesting to see someone mod a custom microswitch (not just modifying the stock microswitch) into a mouse like the deathadder. Basic research seems to indicate that the resistance force on most microswitches is between 50-75 grams. I believe Omron makes switches as sensitive as 16 grams
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I actually own two DeathAdders, and I haven't had a problem with them. I originally had a DeathAdder V2, but I found that my palms sweat too much, so I bought the Black Edition and it's been great.

Just a quick question, though: the ESReality page on the original DeathAdder mentions a clipping issue when using 450DPI and 900DPI. Was this fixed in the latter iterations of the DeathAdder i.e. the V2 and Black Edition? I've searched, but to no avail.

Thanks, to anyone who has information on this smile.gif
    
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