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Hey everyone!

It's been awhile since i've been here. My last build was 1090T on CHIV Formula with 8GB Corsair ram and Intel 80GB SSD as a primary.

Recently, just last 2 weeks, I did some upgrades. Added 2nd GPU a friend had laying in a box, added 3rd LCD for eyefinity (It's wesome), I changed ram to a new set of 4x4GB Ripjaws, did a lot of cable management and new Corsair H100 replaced the old H70 - The System in my sig is updated. I still didn't have time to play with memory timi9ngs etc. That will come later. All of that landed on a brand new ASUS Crosshair V ROG MoBo and should fly. Well ...


I got my 2 new Corsair Force GT 120GB SSDs connected to the AMD SB 950 RAID headers 1 & 2 and put in Raid-0 array. I installed Win 7 Ultimate 64 on it, got all the drivers i could find in place and stared testing.

I did not upgrade Firmware on SSDe yet (I will, but I don't think this has to do with my problem) or upgrade BIOS on the MoBo (Got issues with that too now). Anyways, ATTO test on the same drives in Raid-0 run by AnandTech shows over 1GB/s transfers ... mine maxed out around 630MB/s ... I read a lot people have issues like me on other forums, but nowhere I did find an answer or solution that would help.

Also I can't find a working RaidXpert for SB950. People talk about changing some settings there, but I just can't find the right software that will work.

Some people suggested to "turn Raid5 option in BIOS" - I can't even find a setting like that!

My array is set up with 64bit strip size ... some are saying to try with 128 ... but i seen those SSDs set up with 64bit strip and FLY.

There is also a confusion about which AMD driver to use, and how exactly tell if you are using the one.

And at last ... what other settings like cashing, writeahead, cashback etc should i consider to check.

Hopefully we will find an answer and solution to this issue, because it seems like it bothers more people out there and yet nobody shared their solution yet.

Thanks a lot
Cheers!

Bi2on

PS: All those upgrades because I can't wait for the Bulldozer to finally land on my new AM3+ board. Rock'n'Roll! cool.gif
Edited by Bi2on - 10/1/11 at 2:28pm
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OK, I got a working RaidXpert version installed. It shows that NCQ is enabled on both drives. I got the BIOS up to 0705 - newest available on ASUS website. I checked all the settings in Windows. Even turned off caching to see what happens and still ... drives max out at 630MB/sec read!

Is there anybody here that had a similar issue or some smart people that will know how to fix it?

Some more details on my setup:
LD1: Corsair Force GT 120GB - port 1
Corsair Force GT 120GB - Port 3
Raid Mode: Raid-0
Strip: 64 Write Cache: Enabled
Write cache mode: WriteThru

LD2: Caviar Black 1TB - Port 2
Caviar Black 1TB - Port 4
Raid Mode: Raid-0
Strip: 64 Write Chache: Enabled
Write Cache Mode: WriteBack

Another thing is, that I read somewhere that strip size of 128 is optimal, but I don't thing it should affect performance that much.
Also, somebody saqid that WriteThru mode takes a lot from performance.
Can anybody confirm that INFO?

Corsair Official Forum has a detailed HowTo about configuring a Raid-0 setup on AMD chipset HERE. They use the exact same settings as I did.

I don't get it!
I gues the next thing I'll try is to get the SSDs to port 1 & 2 (instead 1 & 3) and if there is still no ideas from nobody I will have to clone my disk and re-configure the array with 128 strip and WriteBack mode. I understand I will have to secure erase the drives to not loose any more performance.
This is really making my hair go gray! Somebody please help!
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I would try each drive by itself to see if one is messed up. Once you have one drive setup you might want to do a test on each SATA port to make sure they are not messed up.
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amd raid performance low since sb600
however amd sb come more better
i have used 780g ,790gx,790fx ,890fx and now 990fx (sb950)
amd sb performance have been improved..

i am using this c5f raid now
but also use a raid controller to drive it
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Originally Posted by NoGuru;15135589 
I would try each drive by itself to see if one is messed up. Once you have one drive setup you might want to do a test on each SATA port to make sure they are not messed up.

This. It might be one of your drives is limiting the other as well. I would also see if some power saving feature is impeding the performance of these devices.

My 5770 stock clocks is 850/1200. Imagine my surprise the other day when my card was running 400/1200...eh-smiley.gif

Yeah I know a GPU is a different beast than SSD, but it's not the what it's the why. wink.gif

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Thanks everybody for Your help and ideas!

I solved the problem last night ... or was it this morning already ??? :>

First thing I did was install the newest unofficial BIOS by Kingpin - 0909 I believe it is. Than I remembered, that RaidXpert and Raid BIOS itself told me, that my SSDs are connected to SATA Port 1 & 3, and the other 2 Caviars in another Raid0 array to ports 2 & 4. I doble checked the fine print on the board as well as in MoBo documentation to make sure wchich port is waht number. Sure enough according to that I had my SSDs on port 1 & 2 and the other array on ports 3 & 4. I thought I'll gie it a shoot and try switching the cables.

Now that's what the manual tells You:

1---3---5
|==|==|==|
|==|==|==| *|==| - Sata port biggrin.gif
2---4---6

Clearly that's not what the raid config says.
I switched the cables. Checked if now in Raid BIOS my SSDs are number 1 & 2 and other array 3 & 4 - in fact they were - and resumed to windows for benchmark.

Voila! Now I get 890MB/sec writes and pass 930MB/sec in reads!
It's still not as good as Intel controller that beats 1GB/sec reads, but good enough for me to sleep better smile.gif

I might try to unhook the 2 HDDs from the RAID, since they might be stealing some bandwich from the SSD array and see if that improves the results any. But if not, I hope some futere driver upgrades will make the performance close up on the Intel controller and beat the 1GB/s mark.

So here we have it. When You decide to Raid your SSDs or HDDs using AMD MoBo, pay attention to the right cable routing. Obviously, the Crosshair V manual is missleading in this case. The correct SATA port arrangement is:

1---2---5
|==|==|==|
|==|==|==| *|==| - Sata port biggrin.gif
3---4---6


Connect the Raid array's disks to ports 1&2 (or 1,2,3 and than 4 - depending on number of disks). Obviously when I had my 2 SSDs on ports 1 & 3 it limited the performance drasticaly.

Hope that helps!

Cheeers !
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The CHV has an intel controller and your solution was to use the other Amd controller instead?
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Originally Posted by davidm71;15152002 
The CHV has an intel controller and your solution was to use the other Amd controller instead?

No. ChV in fact has another SATA controller, but it has nothing to do with all of that.
My solution was to use different ports for certain drives on the same controller.
The only reason Intel controller is mentioned in my post is for compariaon, since the new intel sata raid controllers set the performance line (for now). Same configuration Raid-0 array on the intel controllers reaches over 1GB/sec in reads. Mine on the AMD SB950 reached almost 940MB/sec when I got all of that wiring mess figured out.

Cheers!


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Originally Posted by davidm71;15152002 
The CHV has an intel controller and your solution was to use the other Amd controller instead?

I believe he was using the onboard controller. Asus has very good onboard RAID control. Just like everything else it still needs a driver but they are very good. wink.gif

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