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post #1621 of 1741
Hey everyone.

So, I received the XpanD X103 universal 3D glasses today. Unfortunately, I cannot get them to work. I tried all the TV settings they have and nothing will work.

This is really unfortunate because they seem really well built, they come packaged in this plastic package that looks like a bubble. It came with two spare batteries, a cloth bag (I'm using it for my Samsung glasses now), and three nose pieces. They are thicker and heavier than the Samsung glasses. When I turned them on they seemed to go through a calibration or something and the lenses would go black one at a time. When they did, the blackness was really solid. It would seem that, if they had of worked, they may have taken care of the crosstalk issue.

Setting them up should have been simple. Press the button for three seconds, and then press it once for Samsung TVs. I guess their TVs and this monitor don't all work the same way for syncing. I'm emailing them right now to confirm it.
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That's unfortunate.

How was the polarization with the screen if you rotated them side to side?
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post #1623 of 1741
^ I didn't notice.

I'm having a bit of a problem. It seems the S27A950D monitor uses Bluetooth to sync the glasses. I never realized this. I had thought it was IR. It seems to me that the glasses I bought are IR. They have a little red windows on the front just like an IR remote.

However, when I go onto the XPAND website and check their compatibility page for the X103 glasses, it says that they work with the Samsung 950 LED monitor series:

http://www.xpand.me/compatible-devices/

Select XPAND Universal 3D Glasses (X103), 3D Monitors, and Samsung and it clearly says they are compatible. However. XPAND also sells glasses with an RF dongle so they can convert Bluetooth signals to RF:

http://www.xpand.me/products/youniversal-3d-glasses/

So, it seems to me that no matter what their compatibility chart says, these glasses will not work with the Samsung 950 LED monitor series. From everything I have read over the last few hours, I'm pretty sure these monitors are Bluetooth. I couldn't find any of this information from Samsung's website (classic Samsung). I had to go digging through forums and even eBay. A seller of the stock glasses on eBay says they are Bluetooth glasses. Several forums say that all Samsung TVs manufactured after 2011 are Bluetooth. Lastly, there was one forum where someone was answering questions about this monitor, and again that person mentioned this monitor uses Bluetooth. So, although I could not find an official Samsung source for this information, everything else I could find seemed to point to Bluetooth.

So, if anyone is looking for a better set of glasses, make sure they are Bluetooth and not infrared. If you purchase Xpand glasses for a Samsung product manufactured after 2011, make sure you get the D104LX1 RF dongle with them.

Edit: Changed early sentence " I had thought it was RF." to correctly say "IR", which is why I purchased the glasses I did.
Edited by Mergatroid - 3/31/14 at 5:46pm
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post #1624 of 1741
I was thinking about you and the xpand glasses and saw the same thing you pointed out with the compatibility list. Finding the actual documentation for the different products is horrible.

Digging into the actual tech that Samsung has on the monitor is difficult to find. But, I have the SSG-5100GB glasses (returning them today) that did work with the 950d, except the polarization was off a touch. The interesting thing is the box says they are RF. I'm 99% sure samsung uses BT and RF interchangeably and do use the BT standard. I'll have to scan BT with my phone to see if the signal is there.

Here is a link for the glasses that came with my monitor, the SSG-3050GB. It list both BT and RF.
http://reviews.us.samsung.com/7463/SSG-3050GB_ZA/samsung-3d-active-glasses-2011-ssg-3050gb-battery-operated-reviews/reviews.htm

As for the Xpand 104s, in the states, best buy has them for $40 (includes dongle.) Didn't see them on the CA site though.

DId XpanD have anything to say about their info being bad and maybe making it right for you?
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post #1625 of 1741
^ The fellow at XpanD agrees that these monitors must be Bluetooth. I think Bluetooth and RF are the same thing since Bluetooth is radio frequency. I think the two basic types are IR (infrared) and RF/Bluetooth for "universal" glasses. OEM glasses may differ. Some may use proprietary RF, but the "universal" glasses seem to cover all RF types. It's a little confusing. Too bad they couldn't have settled on RF to begin with.

Note, Xpand Recommends:

1) X105-RF-X1: http://www.amazon.com/XPAND-X105-RF-X1-Rechargeable-Bluetooth-Glasses/dp/B00BFO4XSA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396069139&sr=8-1&keywords=X105-RF-X1

or

2) B104LX1: http://www.amazon.com/B104LX1-Cinema-YOUniversal-Active-Glasses/dp/B0086UKF6U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396069200&sr=8-1&keywords=b104+xpand
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been trying to sell the S23A950D on craigslist for $280. people been trying to lowball me and even worse they were using the Fry's electronics website as a price evaluation LOL. i mean it's still worth it at $280 compared to what is out today, right? that's what i concluded when i read about the color reproduction vs the other 120hz monitors out today.
    
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I bought mine on ebay in Jan and overpaid at $225. The guy had 2 and the other didn't sell for a couple weeks. Price went down to $175 for that second one. (all prices were delivered.) There was one on here that sat for a long time at $300 and don't know if it ever did sell or for what when it did.

Are the offers comparing to a general non-3D monitor?

The value is this is the best monitor for 3D gaming with an AMD GPU. I think demand has slipped since the Rift has really ramped up the possibility of happening and maybe even this year (I have my doubts that it won't happen till next.) But I think if you could get $200-$225 for it, that would be fair.

here's what the last 3 on ebay went for. Remember, the seller gets popped for the final value fee and they buyer gets popped for shipping. That's the price you really have to go with, but on craigs, you keep your money.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=s23a950d&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc
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Quote:
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Are the offers comparing to a general non-3D monitor?
they were comparing it to the samsung S27A950D. the problem is Fry's is notorious for listing items way below the MSRP when they want to clear it out of their warehouse and chances are said item was OOS everywhere by the time someone notices. i've seen it happen way too many times on slickdeals.
    
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^ I generally sell electronics for half price, once the warranty is gone. So if the monitor cost $300, I would sell it for $150.

My S27A950D cost me about $649cdn when I bought it last year, so I really don't understand how they can compare a 23" monitor to a 27". Personally, in that price range I would just purchase the 27" monitor from Frys if they had it (as you mentioned, they might be all sold out).
Also, the MSRP is meaningless. When we sell product where I work, we do our own markups and completely ignore the MSRP.
What matters is the current cost, and it's irrelevant why the cost is what it is, weather Fry's is blowing them out or not, the fact is their price is driving the overall market price of these models down.
If you're convinced it's worth what you're asking, then stick to your guns. Tell people that you don't think Frys has stock, but that they can go ahead and try to purchase one from them if they're so convinced. I notice that it's "in store only" and "while supplies last". Tell them to phone their local Frys and see if they have stock. If there are none to be purchased anywhere, then it's really a sellers market.

As for the Oculus Rift, since Facebook bought them out, and so many developers have dropped them, I wouldn't hold my breath about seeing a consumer product any time soon.
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post #1630 of 1741
I was getting tired of waiting for the Rift and started with a HP 2311gt. Used it for just a few months and was sold on 3D. Sold it and bought this S23a950d. Even if the rift comes out tomorrow, I'm good for a little bit with this.

Just bought the Xpand B104LX1 for $30!!!! I'll give an update with performance when they arrive.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/youniversal-rechargeable-active-shutter-3d-glasses-bluetooth-and-ir/6923386.p?id=1218814079212&skuId=6923386&st=xpand&cp=1&lp=2#tab=overview
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