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Right guys after 3 years of water cooling and drooling over the idea of going phase I've finally bought a few units to get repaired.

£130 for this lot..

Vapochill LS and a brand new never used Vapochill XE II.



Both units need repair, the XE 2 is brand new and has never been used, It was damaged in transit and has just sat in its box.

Both units have a cracked line and need to be sealed up and re-gassed.

I've found an refridgerent engineer who can do all the work, He says £100 per unit to fix, does that seem fair? Is there anyone on these forums that's UK based and could handle the repairs?

Also, would I be better off combing the parts from both units and making a single more powerful unit?

And considering the parts would anyone be able to give me a rough idea of how much heat load they would be able to handle?

Would they keep my Phenom 2 x6 sub-zero during load if I clock it up to 4.5GHz+?

I've not been this exited about a PC component since I got very first water cooling kit.

Thanks in advance
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The price you were quoted was probably just for a simple repair job and charge by weight. That's about 1hr of actual work.. seems a bit steep for just that, well... in this economy anyways. These units will require some mods to handle the heat output of current cpu's. The unit must then be charged under load with either a load tester or your pc. You should tune for 250w if possible, if it's mainly for gaming then 230w should suffice for any current AMD. If tuning on your pc then 1024m wPrime is usually enough. IBT and Prime can be used too. Use r404a or r407c.

Both units have fairly decent evaps. The LS obviously has a larger compressor and condenser. Both units have POE oil and have been exposed to air so an oil change is highly recommended. Personally I change out all the stock piping as it's either work hardened from age, poor design and or just too small. Oil change is mandatory on open systems.

The minimal mods for the LS would be shortening or changing the captube, installing a new filter/drier with access valve, lowside access valve, desuperheater, high performance push/pull fans on the condenser. Not ideal but should allow heatloads between 225-250w.

Minimal mods for the XE 2 would be a larger condenser, shortening or changing the captube, installing a new filter/drier with access valve, lowside access valve, add vibration loop on discharge.

Ideally you would be upgrading the condenser and evap along with all the other mods. The XE 2 needs the condenser upgrade regardless. A longer evap line is a real nice addition for external cooling systems. I normally make these 36"-48"/1-1.25m. The mounting system is very nice on the LS and is easy to mod for other sockets. LMK if you need help with that.

Those are both very capable units with a little more condenser. I would try and keep them both intact. You could double up the condensers in series on one of the units for more capacity/performance and add a larger one on the other. If you plan to go to a single gpu then maybe convert the XE2 to a gpu cooler.

The Thubans scale a little better with temp in the 4ghz range than the Denebs. My 965BE used to game at 4.4ghz on just 14c chilled liquid. I really don't see 4.5ghz being a problem at all for you. Not sure what your actual core temps would be with the stock evap.. the evap temp itself should be well below 0c though with either compressor. You will like!

Unfortunately I don't know of any builders in the UK atm. The closest builders would be in continental Europe.. Piotres in Poland and LittleDevil in Slovenia.

Regards,
Drew
Edited by Drewmeister - 9/30/11 at 9:51pm
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