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but they never mentioned it. when it was announced, they called it a mechanical keyboard. which it's not 100% mechanical.. it's a hybrid. and they should have stated that since day one.


another thing i don't understand. they say it's a gaming mechanical keyboard but then they make the "gaming" part rubber domes (macro keys)
The whole purpose we went with Cherry Reds specifically was for the light actuation, and quick response for double taps (strafing, quick-response in movements, etc). Macro Keys and Function Keys are typically keys you do not want to accidentally double tap. They're typically press once and let it go buttons, which is why the decision is made.

A lot of you disagree with this - but this is, honestly, why the decision was made.

Also, to say we never mentioned it is completely disingenuous. We announced the keyboards like two-three weeks ago. They haven't even shipped yet. We came out and told anybody at the press launch event, and we made it clear in all our marketing materials.

We mentioned it straight away.

And with that, I'm out of this thread. There are a lot of people that are very passionate about keyboards here, and that's fine, but I can see that there are some people in here who don't really care about anything I type and just want to be pissed off. They're free to do that, but the only way we're going to take criticism seriously is if it's well thought out and expressed in a reasonable manner.

For example: "I'd rather have it in black brushed aluminum." is much more likely to be listened to than "*** CORSAIR silver aluminum MAJOR FAIL *****"
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The whole purpose we went with Cherry Reds specifically was for the light actuation, and quick response for double taps (strafing, quick-response in movements, etc). Macro Keys and Function Keys are typically keys you do not want to accidentally double tap. They're typically press once and let it go buttons, which is why the decision is made.

A lot of you disagree with this - but this is, honestly, why the decision was made.

Also, to say we never mentioned it is completely disingenuous. We announced the keyboards like two-three weeks ago. They haven't even shipped yet. We came out and told anybody at the press launch event, and we made it clear in all our marketing materials.

We mentioned it straight away.

And with that, I'm out of this thread. There are a lot of people that are very passionate about keyboards here, and that's fine, but I can see that there are some people in here who don't really care about anything I type and just want to be pissed off. They're free to do that, but the only way we're going to take criticism seriously is if it's well thought out and expressed in a reasonable manner.

For example: "I'd rather have it in black brushed aluminum." is much more likely to be listened to than "*** CORSAIR silver aluminum MAJOR FAIL *****"
Well I can understand where you're coming from, but it's still just disappointing. Seeing as how there's no full mechanical keyboard option, it's a just bit of a let down because I was looking forward to it. If Corsair were to release a full mech version of the keyboards I would purchase one, but as it stands now I'd rather just wait or get a different keyboard due to my personal preference of wanting a full mech keyboard. After all, I'm spending $100+ dollars on it.

While it's nice that Corsair may have been the one to point out that they keyboards were also using rubber domes, it's also naturally misleading due to the fact that they were announced as mechanical keyboards. I'm sure many people, as I did, assumed they would be fully mechanical and were thus disappointed upon learning otherwise.
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Macro Keys and Function Keys are typically keys you do not want to accidentally double tap. They're typically press once and let it go buttons, which is why the decision is made.
just wondering, did you guys consider cherry black switches for those keys instead of domes?
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Well I can understand where you're coming from, but it's still just disappointing. Seeing as how there's no full mechanical keyboard option, it's a just bit of a let down because I was looking forward to it. If Corsair were to release a full mech version of the keyboards I would purchase one, but as it stands now I'd rather just wait or get a different keyboard due to my personal preference of wanting a full mech keyboard. After all, I'm spending $100+ dollars on it.

While it's nice that Corsair may have been the one to point out that they keyboards were also using rubber domes, it's also naturally misleading due to the fact that they were announced as mechanical keyboards. I'm sure many people, as I did, assumed they would be fully mechanical and were thus disappointed upon learning otherwise.
this is what i was getting at. they announced it as a mechanical keyboard, not a hybrid.

i mean, it looks great and all.. just a shame it isn't full due to it's price.

hopefully they make a tenkeyless version and don't cheap out on the switches.
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Well I honestly don't think there was anything wrong with the way I worded my response. I feel the degree of questioning is deserved in my opinion for what, to a lot of people is a ridiculously explained reason for the decision.

It's almost insulting that they think customers are either too stupid to A) not know how to use a keyboard properly and require dumbed down versions or B) to accept that ridiculous explanation for the choice to add 40 dome keys on a mechanical keyboard.

For those reasons, I feel I'm justified. Whether you do or not, I could care less.
Fair enough sir. No harm, no foul. Opinions are great huh?



Here's a question though, since mechanical lasts longer than rubber dome keys. WOuld overusing the F keys or macro keys wear them out and then you're left with a few keys that are no good and a almost full KB of working cherry Red's?
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this is what i was getting at. they announced it as a mechanical keyboard, not a hybrid.

i mean, it looks great and all.. just a shame it isn't full due to it's price.

hopefully they make a tenkeyless version and don't cheap out on the switches.
Yes, I agree. If they re-release a version with complete switches, I'd probably purchase it. However, I don't want to pay $130 for the K90 when not all the switches are mechanical. It may sound selfish/greedy/whatever, but I simply don't want to purchase a keyboard that isn't completely mechanical at that price. Sure, I may not use the keys often or whatever other justifications there are for using the domes, but it's still enough to put me off from purchasing it. It's not really that I'm angry at Corsair or am accusing them of lying, it's just that it's disappointing because the product is not as 'complete' as I thought it would be, and I feel that they should have been able to recognize that advertising their keyboards as mechanical would naturally lead everyone to assume they would be fully mechanical and the ensuing disappointment from consumers when discovering otherwise.
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Fair enough sir. No harm, no foul. Opinions are great huh?



Here's a question though, since mechanical lasts longer than rubber dome keys. WOuld overusing the F keys or macro keys wear them out and then you're left with a few keys that are no good and a almost full KB of working cherry Red's?
That's one of the problem I have with it. I'm currently typing on a crappy rubber dome waiting for my damned Choc Mini to arrive, and like 10 of the keys stick, or don't actuate anymore, and the KB isn't that old.

You'll end up with a mech keyboard that will last long, but the macro/fkeys that wear out or stick/refuse to actuate properly quickly.

I tried to think of a good analogy about putting a crappy car part in a sports car, but I know nothing about cars so my brain refused to produce one.
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did you get that resolved backfat? get your money back and bought from qtan or still waiting from the ebay seller?
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That's one of the problem I have with it. I'm currently typing on a crappy rubber dome waiting for my damned Choc Mini to arrive, and like 10 of the keys stick, or don't actuate anymore, and the KB isn't that old.

You'll end up with a mech keyboard that will last long, but the macro/fkeys that wear out or stick/refuse to actuate properly quickly.

I tried to think of a good analogy about putting a crappy car part in a sports car, but I know nothing about cars so my brain refused to produce one.
I replaced my Logitech G15 after 2 years or so because a couple keys started not working properly (had to hit them hard).
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did you get that resolved backfat? get your money back and bought from qtan or still waiting from the ebay seller?
Yeah the other seller refunded me in full, 15 days after purchasing. So the jerk never even shipped it within that timespan. Never responded to any of my messages either. I bought one from Qtan last week, I hope it comes sometime this week.
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