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awesome, qtan ships pretty fast. responds even faster! you paid around the same price or was it cheaper? i remember qtan's prices being a tad bit cheaper than the ebay seller you posted. what did you end up getting, black or white keyboard? red switches right?
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awesome, qtan ships pretty fast. responds even faster! you paid around the same price or was it cheaper? i remember qtan's prices being a tad bit cheaper than the ebay seller you posted. what did you end up getting, black or white keyboard? red switches right?
Yeah it was $9 cheaper from Qtan. I got the black KB with red switches. Hopefully they are have the newer keycaps as he claimed.

He does indeed respond fast, I messaged him on two separate days, and he responded back within a few hours. He seems to have quite the little enterprise over in Asia.
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just wondering, did you guys consider cherry black switches for those keys instead of domes?
This.
First off, lighter keys work perfectly fine for every key on the board. However since you guys feel that's not the case, why not just use a stiffer mechanical switch?
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They mentioned the Cherry Black possibility on the Corsair Blog. The link was posted a bit earlier in the thread but here is the relevant section:

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To prevent accidental keystrokes, we tuned the force and linearity of the silicon dome keyswitches for extra damping — something we can't do with mechanical keys — to ensure that they have a clear actuation point and can be triggered reliably in a single press. Using a switch like a Cherry MX Black, would have addressed the force issue (it would be stiffer) but would not have allowed us to tune the damping.
Source: http://www.corsair.com/blog/vengeanc...ch-technology/
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No it doesn't.

It's already been discussed that having two different types of circuitry actually would remove any cost savings from not having 40 MX switches.

Also Corsair has been quoted saying that the reason they chose to use rubber domes was NOT to save money, instead to offer more resistance for those keys to prevent "accidental actuation."
doesn't make too much sense to me, since they use cherry reds for most of the keys if they want some keys with more resistance they can just go cherry blacks or clears to get that instead of going domes



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They mentioned the Cherry Black possibility on the Corsair Blog. The link was posted a bit earlier in the thread but here is the relevant section:



Source: http://www.corsair.com/blog/vengeanc...ch-technology/
I guess they didn't know about cherry clears that have more resistance and a significant tactile bump?

could also have gone with blues, don't have to worry about double tapping those for macro keys (poor double tapping response is significant reason why some people loathe blues for gaming, but sounds like exactly what they'd be desired for in this situation) and they would also have provided a click to verify the keystroke
Edited by bojinglebells - 10/16/11 at 11:20pm
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was seriously contemplating getting this, but now not a chance. so freaking dumb of them.

only idiots will buy this imo
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just wondering, did you guys consider cherry black switches for those keys instead of domes?
I know this question was already addressed by Corsair with talk about "key dampening"... but it is honestly hard to believe. Even after George's explanation. A company with a reputation like Corsair's would obviously know about the many problems and short lifespan of dome switch keys compared to mechanical. For that reason alone, mixing them with mechanical keys is novice, no matter what Corsair's intention was.
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...to ensure that they have a clear actuation point and can be triggered reliably in a single press.
Like bojinglebells said, clears and blues would have easily met these requirements. They could have even use browns, while having a much much less noticeable tactile bump than blues, it's a noticeable difference from reds.
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Not at all. It's not impossible to type on cherry reds - I do it every day with my K60. But for my home gaming PC, where I spend the majority of my time gaming, Cherry Reds are much preferable due to their lighter touch. If I spent the majority of time typing (like my work PC), I'd want a different switch.

And as far as anybody saying that we're trying to lie to customers or something - that's just insulting. We're the ones who came out and told everyone what we did and why we did it. If you don't agree with that, I completely understand. We're all allowed to have our own opinions - but we're not trying to mislead anybody. We are completely up front about what decisions we made and why we made them.

I understand if you don't want to buy our products because you would prefer full mechanical or something (though I disagree with its necessity - I can understand why you might feel differently), we aren't lying to anybody.
Maybe I've been a little harsh on you so let me explain my point of view in a better way.

First let me say that I have nothing against Corsair and you can get proof of it by looking at my system specification where you can see one of your PSU and your RAM both rock solid products that are great.

Going back to your new keyboards let me tell you that the single week where it wasn't sure if they fully mechanical or hybrid was a mistake. Sure you told us about the rubber dome keys soon after the announcement but in the meanwhile the news of your new keyboards spread through internet in the whole world and as mechanical ones.
I can still read, in the last days, of excited people on this forum that think that your keyboards are fully mechanical and that is probably because they come to know the K60 and K90 not from your site but from one of those first news by hardware information sites.

I read all of your messages CorsairGeorge and I remember this one

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I've heard this before, and who knows, you might be right, but to be honest, I think it's a small segment of keyboard enthusiasts who will care very deeply about a key they press twice a day being a rubber dome instead of a mechanical switch.

We'll see, though. Like I said, you could be right.
and that is where my "gaming keyboard" rant come from. It's true that in gaming those keys aren't always that usefull but still you can't say that when it comes to every day use. Knowing that the red switches have good typing capability that would support more the idea of making a full mechanical keyboard that work great with games and good with any other thing like an high end product should be.

I want to make you notice that your official position about the rubber dome keys has changed from "We don't find them usefull for gaming" to "We wanted them to be more stiff because you don't double tap them and with rubber we could adjust the dampening"


I live in Europe and I'm looking for my first mechanical keyboard. While US have a lot keyboards to choose from you have really little choice here.
I can think of 6 mech keyboards that I can easily buy and the only similar to your K90 is the Razer Blackwidow Ultimate at the price of 140€, fully mechanical but with the not really suitable for gaming blue switches. If Razer will ever begin to sell their Stealth edition with brown switches they will probably go for 150€.
Your K90 is actually in preorder for 125€ (that is almost a 1:1 dollar/euro conversion that I don't approve but it is done by many company so I guess I got to deal with it) and with your K60 will be the only red cherry mx keyboards in the whole Europe that will sell in shop and online without looking at US or Asia, paying customs duties and expensive shipping prices.
What I'm saying is that you could easily made a full mechanical keyboard that would have been the best product available in Europe and sell it a 150€ price without any other competitor on the market.

Your actual K90 hybrid keyboard is still expensive with a price matched with fully mechanical not backlighted import keyboards like Zowie Celeritas or DAS Keyboard Professional so I don't find it worth it to someone who want to experience switches even if it has a cool design and backlight.
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i just dont like the fact that you can't fully customize the board with your own keycaps.
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