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So folks, I am thinking of building a new pc just by selling my old:
*[AMD Athlon x2 4800+ @2.51 Ghz]
*[Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe]
*[2 IDE Western Digitals (80GB+120GB)] (as long as the new MB won't support IDEs, they're useless to me)
*[3 Kingston RAMs 1GB each] @ 800Mhz
all these for 200€

and upgrating with:

*[AMD Phenom II X4 955 @3.2Ghz]
*[Gigabyte MB 990FXA-UD3]=130€
*[Seagate ST500DM002 Barracuda 500GB]=42€
*[Corsair 4GB DDR3-1333 Ram Kit TW3X4G1333C9A (2 x 2GB)]=33€

I recently found the Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3, seems to be a very nice motherboard, with great specifications, supports AM3+ which means that in a later state I can upgrade to a Bulldozer, with so little cost
Link: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3894#ov

Corsair RAM: http://www.corsair.com/tw3x4g1333c9a.html

I need some opinions mostly on the motherboard
post #2 of 16
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Originally Posted by Tech14 View Post
So folks, I am thinking of building a new pc just by selling my old:
*[AMD Athlon x2 4800+ @2.51 Ghz]
*[Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe]
*[2 IDE Western Digitals (80GB+120GB)] (as long as the new MB won't support IDEs, they're useless to me)
*[3 Kingston RAMs 1GB each] @ 800Mhz
all these for 200€

and upgrating with:

*[AMD Phenom II X4 955 @3.2Ghz]
*[Gigabyte MB 990FXA-UD3]=130€
*[Seagate ST500DM002 Barracuda 500GB]=42€
*[Corsair 4GB DDR3-1333 Ram Kit TW3X4G1333C9A (2 x 2GB)]=33€

I recently found the Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3, seems to be a very nice motherboard, with great specifications, supports AM3+ which means that in a later state I can upgrade to a Bulldozer, with so little cost
Link: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3894#ov

Corsair RAM: http://www.corsair.com/tw3x4g1333c9a.html

I need some opinions mostly on the motherboard
I just recently got Corsair Vengeance, check it out. It's better than the generic, for almost the same price.

Also, runs at 1.35v
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Corsair Cerulean Blue Vengeance 4GB (2x2GB) @1600Mhz costs 83€ here :/
post #4 of 16
Looks pretty good but consider the following:

Bulldozer should be out soon (in theory). It's worth the wait to see if it fits your budget.

2x4=8GB kits are so cheap, that it doesn't make sense to build machines with 2x2=4GB kits anymore. 1333MHZ RAM speed is fine on the phenom, but might cause some minor bottlebecking if you upgrade to bulldozer. I suggest 1600MHZ RAM speed because it's usually not much difference in price. Try to find 1600MHZ@1.5V.

I think it's worth asking: What is the intended use of the machine? The motherboard you have selected is a very gaming oriented board, but I don't see a GPU selection.
     
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post #5 of 16
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Well, I'm joining the army at the end of October, for the next 8 months :/
And I want to upgrade as soon as possible. I already got the Phenom you see, I bought it a week before, I intented to fit it in my M2N-SLI Deluxe MB.
But I found a close friend of mine to sell my old parts you see .
The machine will be used mostly for games (GTA IV, BC2, COD Black Ops etc)
and I'm gonna stick to my current GPU, as it runs almost everything at max settings so far.
btw I'll follow your suggestion and if the cost isn't that much, I'll buy 2 RAMs x4GB @1600Mhz
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I'll buy 2 RAMs x4GB @1600Mhz
What I did, good decision
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post #7 of 16
That 9600GT is going to really start to bottleneck on it's limited number of shaders on modern games. The good news is that since it won't let to even engage the DX11 engine, it should continue to work reasonably well. (Modern games in DX11 take much greater advantage of the massive increase in shader units on modern GPUs).
     
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FYI, you won't see a difference between 1333mhz and 1600mhz. Only since RAM is dirt cheap, like really cheap these days, just don't need to cheap out for 5$.

I doubt you even see a difference between DDR2 and DDR3 speed. It's mostly about the total amount of RAM you need. If you have too many apps running you will see a slow down due to the need of extra ram, but speed. meh.

Yes 9600 GT will bottleneck any new CPU. It runs Crysis 2, but not GTA 4, and will not run BF3 at all. But that's for your needs.
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FYI, you won't see a difference between 1333mhz and 1600mhz. Only since RAM is dirt cheap, like really cheap these days, just don't need to cheap out for 5$.

I doubt you even see a difference between DDR2 and DDR3 speed. It's mostly about the total amount of RAM you need. If you have too many apps running you will see a slow down due to the need of extra ram, but speed. meh.

Yes 9600 GT will bottleneck any new CPU. It runs Crysis 2, but not GTA 4, and will not run BF3 at all. But that's for your needs.
There is a very tangible difference between DDR2 and 3, more than 10%. As of 1600vs1333 - not so much, but 1600 will let you OC better without having to drop that Ram multi
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if you are going to gaming get 970 extreme 4 from asrock it's good and cheap ^^
    
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