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I really couldn't have said it better myself.

For all those reasons and more, I'd get a used HD 6950 off eBay right now
eBay? So we're comparing eBay prices of the 6950 to retail prices of the 560 Ti?

The 6950 may be faster, but on newegg the cheapest 2GB 6950 is still $50 more expensive than the cheapest 560 Ti.
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You are right.

Except that the HD 560 Ti is known for being way overclocked from stock, giving it most its performance and little overclocking room.
Well from what I've read this is rubbish and the 560 Ti overclocks very well. Are you making things up?
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But that's like saying "If you do choose to die instead of live, go with a lethal injection."

Why would you tell someone that in the first place? Yeah, I agree, lethal injection beats other methods.. but let's not even get into that, okay?
You are crap at analogies; stop using them.
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i would get the 560ti its a great card and i could handle bc2 @ 1080p nicely (used it with my i5 650 havnt tried my 2600k yet)(also can player bf3 @ 1080p) and u will only see about 3-5% slower performance compared to the 6950, it is a great card, and they overclock very well (near 570 clock's)
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You are right.

Except that the HD 560 Ti is known for being way overclocked from stock, giving it most its performance and little overclocking room.

It's like comparing a 1Ghz HD 6950 to a GTX 570, do you understand?

Also, please try to contain yourself. This is not a life-or-death discussion and doesn't call for insult.
Perhaps you should do your research before telling others to "contain themselves."

Guru3d hit ~1000 MHz on most of the GTX 560 Tis they've tested, a 22% overclock from stock. They managed to hit ~875MHz with most of the GTX 460s they've tested, which is a 30% overclock from stock. Only an 8% difference, and the 560 Ti still manages to hit higher clocks in the end anyway. Not to mention it has an extra 48 stream processors and 8 texture units.

So the fact that you say

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I wouldn't get a GTX 560 Ti, as it's merely an overclocked GTX 460.
boggles my mind
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eBay? So we're comparing eBay prices of the 6950 to retail prices of the 560 Ti?

The 6950 may be faster, but on newegg the cheapest 2GB 6950 is still $50 more expensive than the cheapest 560 Ti.
The GTX 560 Ti sells for 160-200$ on eBay.

That is on the level of an HD 6950 (I got mine for 180$).

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Well from what I've read this is rubbish and the 560 Ti overclocks very well. Are you making things up?
No, I cannot say that with certainty, but the GTX 560 Ti would have to clock around 1Ghz to beat an overclock HD 6950 unlocked.

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You are crap at analogies; stop using them.
Of course I am.
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Perhaps you should do your research before telling others to "contain themselves."

Guru3d hit ~1000 MHz on most of the GTX 560 Tis they've tested, a 22% overclock from stock. They managed to hit ~875MHz with most of the GTX 460s they've tested, which is a 30% overclock from stock. Only an 8% difference, and the 560 Ti still manages to hit higher clocks in the end anyway.


I may have been wrong here.

1Ghz? On stock cooling?

Jesus, that's insane.

I mean, sure, if you could click a GTS 250 to 1Ghz, it could be as good as a GTX 260.. I just didn't think it's possible.
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You can't compare it to an unlocked 6950 which is effectively a 6970, how is that fair? Only a small amount of 6950's are capable of that anyways.
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No, I cannot say that with certainty, but the GTX 560 Ti would have to clock around 1Ghz to beat an overclock HD 6950 unlocked.
most of the benchmarks ive seen have the 6950 around 3-5% higher in "some" bench's in others the 560ti beats it
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post #30 of 36
Track, I don't know if that's just a fanboi axe you're grinding or what your issue is, but I am not going to get into some kind of battle with someone so hell bent on spreading disinformation.

The 6950 and the 560Ti are so close in performance, and trade off performance leads from game to game, that it's a case of personal preference that no one who is being honest will ever notice in real world play, unless they are running benchmarking software in every game/application.

I will say, if you are buying a GPU for one specific game you should check benchmarks for that game. And in this case, instead of just shooting from your backside like Track is, here are some actual benchmarks from a trusted source (attached):



A caveat to the benches - that's a stock comparison. The Ti tested is @ 822Mhz, and the 6950 doesnt have the full 1536 shaders unlocked. Ti's beings old these days are almost all clocked significantly higher (usually about 900 MHz like mine), and can be pushed to about 1GHz (like mine can). Likewise, the 6950's locked shaders can sometimes be unlocked, and it can be overclocked some as well. Also, there are 2GB versions of both cards, which will help with higher resolutions.

Having said all that, the general performance trend is that the Ti is a hair faster at lower resolutions and the 6950, at least in these tests, was faster at higher res, with 1080 being the breakeven point in performance.

That's complete overkill for a response to your question/dilemma, but I get sick of folks like Track coming on here with an agenda.

[edit - LMAO - I gess it would help to label each card in that screencap - sorry I cant figure out how to manipulate the GPU bench for a single game and 2 cards. The blue one is the Ti, the black bar is the 6950, but the fact that they have to be identified is kind of the point. It's not worth stressing over. They're too close. Find a good deal on either and pat yourself on the back for a good purchase.

Edited by The Advocate - 10/2/11 at 7:06am
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