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post #221 of 272
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Originally Posted by RPXZ View Post
Ok so?

They would have 1.3 million people less finding bugs for them.

This Beta is helping them, don't make it sound like they are doing us a favor.
It doesn't take 1.3 million people to find bugs Could easily have done 1000-5000 and left it at that.

Personally I'm tired of all of the whining. Putting the beta in my hands and giving me an opportunity to experience the game, to have the ability to make observations about gameplay, physics, etc is a fantastic thing for me. Most of the people who are whining have never developed software, never spent all night looking thousands of lines of code searching for the cause of a bug or an imperfection.

Thank you game devs for letting us provide feedback to improve the game and sorry about all of the ungrateful snots who simply don't understand.
Edited by selectstriker2 - 10/3/11 at 7:57pm
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post #222 of 272
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Show me a source which states we were to get that?

All I was told, is that we get a beta in late September. We got a beta in late September.
Look for it yourself. You obviously haven't been following BF3 developers on twitter for the past few months... It's funny how people who know next to nothing on the subject continue to comment.
post #223 of 272
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post
Look for it yourself. You obviously haven't been following BF3 developers on twitter for the past few months... It's funny how people who know next to nothing on the subject continue to comment.
I love that.

Your logic is similar to this...

You - "Bigfoot exists"
Other person - "Show me proof Bigfoot exists."
You - "You go find it yourself. I am right, you know nothing. I am more up on this than you"

Sorry, but the burden of proof is on you. You made the statement, especially about something two people have already disagreed with. It's sad that people continue to make statements that are not backed up by proof and pretend they are smarter than others.

Finding the lack of something is close to impossible. You state something exists, and you must provide proof. It is not on the person that doubts it's existence to find something you state to be true, or prove the lack of it.
Edited by being that guy - 10/3/11 at 8:10pm
post #224 of 272
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Originally Posted by selectstriker2 View Post
It doesn't take 1.3 million people to find bugs Could easily have done 1000-5000 and left it at that.

Personally I'm tired of all of the whining. Putting the beta in my hands and giving me an opportunity to experience the game, to have the ability to make observations about gameplay, physics, etc is a fantastic thing for me. Most of the people who are whining have never developed software, never spent all night looking thousands of lines of code searching for the cause of a bug or an imperfection.

Thank you game devs for letting us provide feedback to improve the game and sorry about all of the ungrateful snots who simply don't understand.
Yes they could have, but they didn't. Did they really expect everyone to be constructive critics? With a market that big Dice should have been prepared for the whiners. It doesn't help their image when they have the community manager telling their buyers to "grow up".

It boils down to that old saying... If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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post #225 of 272
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I love that.

Your logic is similar to this...

You - "Bigfoot exists"
Other person - "Show me proof Bigfoot exists."
You - "You go find it yourself. I am right, you know nothing. I am more up on this than you"
My logic is similar to some conspiracy nut thinking Bigfoot is real? You sir are intelligent...

That's like someone coming in here claiming that they didn't know the sky was blue. Should I really spend all the time explaining to each and every person why the sky is blue during the day? No, quit being lazy and go read up on it yourself.

Just because some random person comes in in claiming "all I've heard is this" doesn't mean that's what reality is. It's not my job to hold your hand and educate you on everything. Use some effort and look yourself before making up ideas in your head and claiming them as facts. Who's fault is it you refuse to do any actual work? You could even look at Zh1nto's(the one mentioned in this article) twitter feed to find many of those statements yourself.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 10/3/11 at 8:35pm
post #226 of 272
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My logic is similar to some conspiracy nut thinking Bigfoot is real? You sir are intelligent...

Just because some random person comes in in claiming "all I've heard is this" doesn't mean that's what reality is. It's not my job to hold your hand and educate you on everything. Use some effort and look yourself before making up ideas in your head and claiming them as facts. Who's fault is it you refuse to do any actual work? You could even look at Zh1nto's(the one mentioned in this article) twitter feed to find many of those statements yourself.
Normally, I do find it rather stupid when people go "show me the sources!" instead of looking for themselves pointing it back at you like this is some kind of grand-stage jury or science debate that we're presenting rather than some internet forum.

But in this case that's hard because the twitter posts have been deleted. They did exist, I can back you up on the early September part, but they are no longer there.

EDIT:
Some proof
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/b...september.html
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My logic is similar to some conspiracy nut thinking Bigfoot is real? You sir are intelligent...

Just because some random person comes in in claiming "all I've heard is this" doesn't mean that's what reality is. It's not my job to hold your hand and educate you on everything. Use some effort and look yourself before making up ideas in your head and claiming them as facts. Who's fault is it you refuse to do any actual work? You could even look at Zh1nto's(the one mentioned in this article) twitter feed to find many of those statements yourself.
I actually looked for your bullspit. It doesn't exist. You are full of crap and can only deflect.

How about I flip the script. No one claimed Caspian would be a beta map. No one claimed 64 players. No one claimed jets. Now get off your lazy ass and prove me wrong, otherwise you are full of it.

Let me guess, you won't, because you know you have nothing and can't admit you are completely wrong.
post #228 of 272
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Originally Posted by OmegaNemesis28 View Post
Normally, I do find it rather stupid when people go "show me the sources!" instead of looking for themselves pointing it back at you like this is some kind of grand-stage jury or science debate that we're presenting rather than some internet forum.

But in this case that's hard because the twitter posts have been deleted. They did exist, I can back you up on the early September part, but they are no longer there.

EDIT:
Some proof
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/b...september.html
Figures they would delete it to cover their tracks and pretend like they never promised anything. Ohwell, Oct 25 will be here soon and hopefully they'll at least get their act together with ingame squad options and VOIP. This whole trying to cater to CoD crowd by dumbing down the game is disappointing to the Battlefield community.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 10/3/11 at 8:48pm
post #229 of 272
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Originally Posted by OmegaNemesis28 View Post
Normally, I do find it rather stupid when people go "show me the sources!" instead of looking for themselves pointing it back at you like this is some kind of grand-stage jury or science debate that we're presenting rather than some internet forum.

But in this case that's hard because the twitter posts have been deleted. They did exist, I can back you up on the early September part, but they are no longer there.

EDIT:
Some proof
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/b...september.html
You might want to scroll through the thread a bit. Yet thank you for helping my statement...

Quote:
Twitter
Twitter
Twitter


HAS BEEN CORRECTED.... ITS JUST SEPTEMBER, NOT EARLY
That was a screw up fixed quickly.

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/b...ptember-4.html
post #230 of 272
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I love that.

Your logic is similar to this...

You - "Bigfoot exists"
Other person - "Show me proof Bigfoot exists."
You - "You go find it yourself. I am right, you know nothing. I am more up on this than you"

Sorry, but the burden of proof is on you. You made the statement, especially about something two people have already disagreed with. It's sad that people continue to make statements that are not backed up by proof and pretend they are smarter than others.

Finding the lack of something is close to impossible. You state something exists, and you must provide proof. It is not on the person that doubts it's existence to find something you state to be true, or prove the lack of it.
All hints at 64 player caspian for the beta have since been removed from their respective origins. Not to throw gas on this fire, but I follow almost every DICE dev who has a twitter and was under the impression that Caspian Border would be the beta map.

The kicker is that Caspian very well COULD have been the beta map, as it was included in the PC beta files and very playable at that. DICE just didn't, for whatever reason (probably EA pulling strings), want the PC version to be any more favored than it already (supposedly) is and get a completely different experience than consoles.

There are a lot of childish whining and not to mention that stupid, hollow, and not to mention overused threat "going to cancel my preorder" that gets thrown around every time people don't absolutely love every aspect of the game. DICE must have been extremely tired of being constantly threatened by its playerbase after every bit of information they gave to us. A closed beta would have been MUCH better suited for the type of testing DICE needed, and would have a more focused and concise player base giving feedback. Probably more people who would have submitted feedback on battlelog in a professional manner instead of treating it like facebook.

Battlefield is going to be an amazing game, no doubt, but it isn't quite living up to my expectations of being a true BF2 sequel.
Edited by Higgins - 10/3/11 at 10:06pm
    
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