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Good for him. Some people are complaining over the most ridiculous things. Metro was the map picked, so what? No one is forced to play the beta.

Then you have people complaining how bad Metro and BF3 is, while they played over 24hours of it in 4 days...
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Best Community Manager Ever.
post #63 of 272
So guy insults potential buyers of this game and people say he did a good job? That is like shopping around for an Apple product and have Steve Jobs tell you that you are holding it wrong.
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Betas help both sides, and as with everything else in life, you have to take the good with the bad. Frankly I think that rep could use a few lessons in professionalism and forming realistic expectations.
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So guy insults potential buyers of this game and people say he did a good job? That is like shopping around for an Apple product and have Steve Jobs tell you that you are holding it wrong.
Reading comprehension; learn it.

Calling people "ungrateful" is not an insult - he specifically thanked those who provided feedback, and asked others to "grow up" for the way they were reacting. That's not insulting; that's calling it how you see it. Prospective buyers or not, he has every right to stand up for a product he and his team represents and vice versa, especially on the basis that what people are reacting to immaturely is an unpolished and unfinished product.

This is a Beta; the Community Manager was correct in his statement that the Beta is a PRIVILEGE; it is NOT a right. DICE benefits from it, sure, but we all know that probably less than 10% of Beta participants will even provide any constructive feedback, and given that the build is already 4-8 weeks behind the Beta, a lot of the obvious bugs and glitches have already been addressed.

And if I walked into an Apple Store and Steve Jobs told me I was holding one of the FINISHED display products wrong while shopping (calling it how he sees it), I would probably thank him for helping me not to look like a complete idiot the whole time i'm there. And I happen to hate Apple.

It's the same way that people are making assumptions about the Beta build now; they're calling it how they see it. Nevermind the plethora of resources that state that the build IS buggy, IS unfinished, etc. or the fact that all we have to do is wait another 3 weeks to make some honest judgments about the final product.

But nope. Reserving judgment until the final release is out is way too hard for most people. Again, better to pretend we all know everything, because we all work for and represent DICE apparently.
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Reading comprehension; learn it.

Calling people "ungrateful" is not an insult - he specifically thanked those who provided feedback, and asked others to "grow up" for the way they were reacting. That's not insulting; that's calling it how you see it. Prospective buyers or not, he has every right to stand up for a product he and his team represents and vice versa, especially on the basis that what people are reacting to immaturely is an unpolished and unfinished product.

This is a Beta; the Community Manager was correct in his statement that the Beta is a PRIVILEGE; it is NOT a right. DICE benefits from it, sure, but we all know that probably less than 10% of Beta participants will even provide any constructive feedback, and given that the build is already 4-8 weeks behind the Beta, a lot of the obvious bugs and glitches have already been addressed.

And if I walked into an Apple Store and Steve Jobs told me I was holding one of the FINISHED display products wrong while shopping (calling it how he sees it), I would probably thank him for helping me not to look like a complete idiot the whole time i'm there. And I happen to hate Apple.

It's the same way that people are making assumptions about the Beta build now; they're calling it how they see it. Nevermind the plethora of resources that state that the build IS buggy, IS unfinished, etc. or the fact that all we have to do is wait another 3 weeks to make some honest judgments about the final product.

But nope. Reserving judgment until the final release is out is way too hard for most people. Again, better to pretend we all know everything, because we all work for and represent DICE apparently.
Precisely.

Then again, reading your entire post might be past the capability of many of the whiners
    
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This is why public beta should be limited to 128-256 players.
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I think their saying he did a good job because they believe people have no right to whine. Which strictly speaking, They DON'T have a right to whine over a map. It is the devs choice and they can shut up and play or leave. The beta is free and given to get feedback and listen to constructive criticism, not to listen to people whine about a map.

Beta=/=Demo

Beta is suppose to have bugs and every beta I have ever participated in has had bugs. DICE did not have to give us a beta, initially the beta was going to be closed to MOH players ONLY but then DICE was nice enough to make it open. People who whine, deserve to be yelled at in my opinion.

People should not act like their in the first grade when something is free. When your parents put food on the table and your not a big fan of it. You don't have a right to whine either. You can choose not to eat it but to whine about it and throw a fit is just immature, rude , and defines you as a selfish ungrateful person who does not deserve anything free and should have to work for it. - Unless your in the 1st grade, then it's just frowned upon as you should know better but you may not. Once you hit 12 you should know this stuff.

Yes, I did just use that to explain how people are acting. I could elaborate more but I think I got the point across. Not saying the guys out burst was right but what he said was true, well put, and deserved by many.

The beta is meant for constructive criticism, complaining about which map they chose does not qualify as constructive in any way. On the other hand if you think their is a bug or glitch, then report it. Same with graphical issues.

Keep in mind, this is my opinion, if you don't like it that is fine.
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This is why public beta should be limited to 128-256 players.
So basically you mean that a public beta shouldn't be "public" right?
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They should have never done a public beta in the first place. Let the whiners and unproductive jerks sit this one out and only accept people who will act like adults and help finalize the game. Ridiculous that they have to take so much flak for something they are providing for FREE.....
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