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Originally Posted by xPrestonn View Post
I was under the impression that AD700s benefit more from a good soundcard than uDAC because of its impedance
Interesting, that I do not know, but as said before, sound card is not considered here.

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Originally Posted by Simca View Post
While I think the suggestions I'm going to give you are overkill for your AD700s, they're the best in your price range from my research.

Take a look at the Aune Mini MK2 (this being first pick) or the Musiland Monitor 02. Both have headphone amps built in, but you won't need them for the AD700s. They're very easy to drive.

If you wanted to spend even less, find a used Zero Dac with opamps. Can be found for 106 if you're lucky.
Thanks, I might have to look into those as they do not sound familiar to me.
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Read this review of the Fiio E10. There is a section where he compares the E10 to the Nuforce uDAC 2. You might find the E10 to better suit your needs.
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I still don't understand why you don't get an external soundcard.

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I still don't get what you mean by "a higher quality DAC is pointless if your source audio is lower quality". Is the source audio in this case the quality of music (like 128 vs 192khz), movies and games or anything else?
Source audio = onboard soundcard.
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I still don't understand why you don't get an external soundcard.



Source audio = onboard soundcard.
Isn't DAC similar to external sound card (I mean, in terms of audio quality gain from onboard sound card) coz I've not known of such an external sound card?

If so then I apologize, I thought you mentioned "sound card" as the regular internal sound card.

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Originally Posted by decimate View Post
Read this review of the Fiio E10. There is a section where he compares the E10 to the Nuforce uDAC 2. You might find the E10 to better suit your needs.
Looks very promising. However, I can't find them for sale anywhere.
Edited by goldbranch - 10/3/11 at 1:12pm
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I still don't understand why you don't get an external soundcard.



Source audio = onboard soundcard.
Because that external sound card is trash, especially compared to what he could get for that price.

On top of that, it's actually inferior to the Titanium HD sound card for internal use.

Furthermore, he IS trying to get an external sound card...called an external DAC, hence all the recommendations.

~Claps for understanding~
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Err... can anyone explain what's the difference between external sound card and external DAC?

Man, it feels bad to be a noob.

@Simca: what do you think about the Fiio E10 that decimate mentioned earlier? It seems promising to me.
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Err... can anyone explain what's the difference between external sound card and external DAC?

Man, it feels bad to be a noob.

@Simca: what do you think about the Fiio E10 that decimate mentioned earlier? It seems promising to me.
I don't actually have any experience with the Fiio E10, but I would rather go with something I know is good for sure and is worth the price. I would take the Musiland Monitor 02 at the same price as that Fiio E10.

That's not to say that the product is bad, inferior or whatever, I just don't know enough about it to say either "it's good" or "it's bad."

There is no real difference between an external sound card and an external DAC.

If anything external sound cards might come with certain features like Dolby Headphone and other useless crap. The Titanium HD External sound card is for certain inferior to all recommendations thus far. It's even worse than the internal Titanium HD sound card.
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post #18 of 21
The Fiio E7 is very good as well.
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I don't actually have any experience with the Fiio E10, but I would rather go with something I know is good for sure and is worth the price. I would take the Musiland Monitor 02 at the same price as that Fiio E10.

That's not to say that the product is bad, inferior or whatever, I just don't know enough about it to say either "it's good" or "it's bad."

There is no real difference between an external sound card and an external DAC.

If anything external sound cards might come with certain features like Dolby Headphone and other useless crap. The Titanium HD External sound card is for certain inferior to all recommendations thus far. It's even worse than the internal Titanium HD sound card.
Let's say if I'm going with the Aune Mini MK2 as you recommended ($130 shipped on ebay and man, shipped from China ), how would it combo with AD700 comparing to AD700 + internal sound card (such as Asus Xonar DX/DG)?
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Let's say if I'm going with the Aune Mini MK2 as you recommended ($130 shipped on ebay and man, shipped from China ), how would it combo with AD700 comparing to AD700 + internal sound card (such as Asus Xonar DX/DG)?
The Aune Mini MK2 is hands down better than almost all internal solutions. The amplifier is higher quality than the Xonar Essence ST/X.

If there is a downside it MAY be that it's not "tuned" for gaming. It doesn't have all the effects that a sound card would give you. IMO, those are all pretty useless features.

In fact the Aune Mini MK2 is overkill for your AD700s. They should be paired with better headphones, but will do with the AD700s.
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