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post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by kaingosu;15200541 
I didn't replace them because they don't bother me. As soon as they break i just buy a new WMO (they're quite cheap, i payed 11.99 pounds for the one i'm using atm). But this guy did it and it looks awsome:

http://dreamlayers.blogspot.com/2010/06/microsoft-wheel-mouse-optical-button.html

The cord however is a bit of a problem. I'm looking for a guy who has experience in soldering (im not that good at it). What i did was i painted the mouse a glossy black and used some insulation tape on the sides to increase the grip. Also i use corepad G500 skates because i love the glide of those big skates (EC1, G400, G500 etc). It now feels like a different mouse with better grip and smoother glide. Replacing the cord and adding Omrons seems to be the cherry on top of the cake. This mouse works like a charm compared to these bugged, more expensive, recently released mice from Razer, Steelseries etc etc etc: no acceleration, no jitter, low LOD, no z-axis issue.
I agree for sure. You made me interested in customizing one of WMO a bit. I'd rather not solder so I don't know if I'll bother changing switches. I don't know how to do the glossy paint., so what should I buy for it and do you have pictures of yours?
post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by glockateer;15205959 
I agree for sure. You made me interested in customizing one of WMO a bit. I'd rather not solder so I don't know if I'll bother changing switches. I don't know how to do the glossy paint., so what should I buy for it and do you have pictures of yours?

Look for 2001-2002 x06 or 2002-2004~ x08 Intellimouse 1.1/3.0. Those have Omron Japan D2F-01F-T switches biggrin.gif

In other news. Koreans are crazy (in a good way) when it comes to customization.

4e42445da44df.jpg

Can't read that, but it looks like they also found a way to semi fix the wheel.
Edited by Skylit - 10/6/11 at 9:35pm
post #13 of 24
WMO is really great out of the box, the rest is personal preference. I used a spray paint for plastic, but any car paint will do it. The original coating is exactly like IMO 1.1 (non glossy) and many people prefer that. I guess you can find videos on youtube about spray painting an object, maybe even a mouse.
I also used some insulation tape on the sides (again personal preference, the grip is pretty good already because of the shape), something like this:

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00QUPtoZuIJTJd/PVC-Insulation-Tape.jpg

Just tape it to the sides and cut it so it fits perfectly. You can find all sorts of colours and you can add more than one layer, giving it a rubberized feeling.
Next i sticked to the top shell an 18g piece of metal from some a4tech mouse (http://www.esreality.com/files/inlineimages/2009/72396-a4tech%20X-718BK%20weight%20.JPG) to give it more weight. The WMO weights around 75g and thats a little light for me.
Last thing i did was to replace the original skates with teflon ones. I like the glide and feel of big skates so i used these:
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/STEELSERIES-NORTH-AMERICA-CORP-60007-GLIDE/dp/B000UVM1G0/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1317941242&sr=8-10"]Amazon.com: STEELSERIES NORTH AMERICA CORP 60007 STEELSERIES GLIDE G: Video Games[/ame]


This is a little tricky to do because you have to sand the plastic "bumps" where the original smaller skates fit (http://www.dansdata.com/images/moremouses/wmobase440.jpg). Once that area is flat you can stick skates for the Logitech G series, Zowie EC series, even the SS Xai skates are great.
Again these are all personal preferences. The only thing you really need to do is replace the original skates with any brand of 1.1/3.0 teflon ones and you're good to go.
Right now im waiting for Steelseries Kana to be released and if it turns out to be just another disappointment, i'll buy a couple of WMOs just in case they stop making it. It's sad to see how a 10 years old sensor performs better than all these laser sensors and some new optical ones (kinzu's STM 5366 comes to mind). Microsoft hit the jackpot with these mice by accident and they obviously don't know how they did it (because their latest blutrack mice suck).

PS: That Geek Gaming SE WMO looks awesome.
Edited by kaingosu - 10/6/11 at 5:10pm
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by kaingosu;15206775 
i'll buy a couple of WMOs just in case they stop making it.

Handle that. 1.1 and WMO were removed from the official site and replaced with the comfort 3000 in most retail stores.

Only thing I find lack luster is the scroll wheel, switches, and top plastic... but you can't really complain with the price point.
Edited by Skylit - 10/6/11 at 5:35pm
post #15 of 24
Thread Starter 
got my wmo yesterday, and going from g400 to WMO aiming seemed much easier. Idk if it was the prediction but it owns for tf2. Like the sensor so much i oredred a ime 3.0 also don't know which i will like better.
post #16 of 24
I want one of those korean WMOs. : P
I have a few already and I'll probably get more since they're cheap and I don't feel like changing mice. The small skates are actually something I like so I just order aftermarket skates for a couple dollars and I'm good. I've used intellimice for 8-10 years... all 3 versions, though.

Not sure about people and heavy mice. I actually wish my WMO was a bit lighter...

The PVC tape is kind of interesting. This current WMO has been used so much that the sides and buttons no longer have texture. Just smooth sides. Waiting for my mouse skates in the mail but maybe I should give the tape a go in the meantime.

Also yes, mikez0r, the intellimouse sensor is perfection. The top control speed is good but not great. I don't believe the low or high sensitivities extremes give much benefit anyway.
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by glockateer;15207771 
I want one of those korean WMOs. : P
I have a few already and I'll probably get more since they're cheap and I don't feel like changing mice. The small skates are actually something I like so I just order aftermarket skates for a couple dollars and I'm good. I've used intellimice for 8-10 years... all 3 versions, though.

Not sure about people and heavy mice. I actually wish my WMO was a bit lighter...

The PVC tape is kind of interesting. This current WMO has been used so much that the sides and buttons no longer have texture. Just smooth sides. Waiting for my mouse skates in the mail but maybe I should give the tape a go in the meantime.

Also yes, mikez0r, the intellimouse sensor is perfection. The top control speed is good but not great. I don't believe the low or high sensitivities extremes give much benefit anyway.


I'm going to give my WMO another try here shortly just because I think it personally has the best shape out of any mouse on the market. The only problem is the low DPI of it. Do you play any RTS games or anything other than FPS for that matter? If you do, do you use the default windows speed with 400 DPI in those games. Seems kinda slow and thats my only problem.
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
6/11 in windows is best and 400 dpi is good you can jsut rise in game senitivty if it too slow for you
post #19 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by glockateer;15207771 
The PVC tape is kind of interesting. This current WMO has been used so much that the sides and buttons no longer have texture. Just smooth sides. Waiting for my mouse skates in the mail but maybe I should give the tape a go in the meantime.
It was just an example. I actually found a similar tape, but thicker and textured. It feels even better than DA Black Edition and Xai's rubber sides. Something like this http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/320878645/rubber_insulation_tape.jpg
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Originally Posted by mikez0r;15209659 
6/11 in windows is best and 400 dpi is good you can jsut rise in game senitivty if it too slow for you
It bothers me a little in windows because i won't use anything except 6/11 and there's no other way to increase the sensitivity. But you can't have it all and WMO is the best compromise imo.
post #20 of 24
Stoked! Just found a WMO and an MX300 in a box of old parts. biggrin.gif
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MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
viewsonic 27" Cooler master qfr cooler master 700 corsair 250d 
MouseMouse PadAudio
anker vertical ocz sony 5.25" bookshelfs 
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960t M4A89GTD-proUSB3 pny 660Ti samsung wonder ram 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB Samsung F3 Samsung 840 250GB LG external DVD/R 212 evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 ViewSonic ViewSonic VX2739wm model m Cooler Master Silent Pro 700 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li A05FNB (flipped to A05NB) Razer Deathadder Black edt. OCZ behemoth Audio Technica ATH-AD500 
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