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Honestly, if you dont care about running "ultra max settings with 24x SAA" etc, a 6870/GTX560 would be fine. If you want to be future proof, a 560 Ti or 6950 1Gb would be plenty.
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Smaller SSD drives are smaller, and all SSDs are slower ones they are filled around their half way point. I wouldnt have less then an 80GB drive for an OS drive. Its also a good idea to leave some of the drive not partitioned so it has extra space for GC, and will make it last longer as well. (does not apply to sandforce drives though)
lol 80GB for boot drive? are you serious?

You can do a boot drive off of a 30GB SSD.
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Honestly, if you dont care about running "ultra max settings with 24x SAA" etc, a 6870/GTX560 would be fine. If you want to be future proof, a 560 Ti or 6950 1Gb would be plenty.
What games are you playing?

Definitely get at least a 6950/560Ti with your budget. Don't bother with the GTX570 though - if you want something better go with the GTX580 1.5GB.

1GB is definitely *not* future proof considering that BF3 uses about 1400mb of VRAM when played on Ultra. If you're looking at that ~$250 price range, the 2GB 6950 or 2GB 560Ti is the way to go. If you want to spend more and sacrifice a little elsewhere (you really don't need the H100 - you'd be absolutely fine with the H60 or H80), get the GTX580 1.5GB.
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Res is resolution. Is your monitor 1920x1080? Or is it lower or higher?

The first one I got was DOA, the second one had a dead CPU_Fan header, and none of the LLC levels would make the vdroop right. For some reason the same CPU and case with the same cooling, it ran hotter then in my MSI P67-GD55. And I didnt like the BIOS layout.
Sounds like you're one of very few unlucky people who had a DOA board. The Asus 1155 boards are the most popular and recommended on OCN (with Gigabyte coming in a close 2nd) and there's a reason for that.
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Alright Zzari so I guess I'll downgrade from H100 to a H60.
And yea the reason I'm staying the Asus is because so many people tell me to get it and its the best.

And which GTX 580 should I get?
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lol 80GB for boot drive? are you serious?

You can do a boot drive off of a 30GB SSD.
Yeah, you could, but on an SSD it would be ****ty performance. There is a reason the larger drives are faster.
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What games are you playing?

Definitely get at least a 6950/560Ti with your budget. Don't bother with the GTX570 though - if you want something better go with the GTX580 1.5GB.

1GB is definitely *not* future proof considering that BF3 uses about 1400mb of VRAM when played on Ultra. If you're looking at that ~$250 price range, the 2GB 6950 or 2GB 560Ti is the way to go. If you want to spend more and sacrifice a little elsewhere (you really don't need the H100 - you'd be absolutely fine with the H60 or H80), get the GTX580 1.5GB.
Ive never seen a review for any vid card that shows any improvement between a 1GB card and the same card with 2GB at 1080P. Higher res or tripple monitors, yeah, but not at 1080P.
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Sounds like you're one of very few unlucky people who had a DOA board. The Asus 1155 boards are the most popular and recommended on OCN (with Gigabyte coming in a close 2nd) and there's a reason for that.
One of the few? Ive seen loads of reports of DOA ASUS 1155 boards. Simple truth is, there is better stuff for the money. ASUS has a high market share, so there are more people with them that recomend them from biased points of view (ie, they have it). They havent tried anything else and are not able to recomend something else.
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Yeah, you could, but on an SSD it would be ****ty performance. There is a reason the larger drives are faster.

Ive never seen a review for any vid card that shows any improvement between a 1GB card and the same card with 2GB at 1080P. Higher res or tripple monitors, yeah, but not at 1080P.


One of the few? Ive seen loads of reports of DOA ASUS 1155 boards. Simple truth is, there is better stuff for the money. ASUS has a high market share, so there are more people with them that recomend them from biased points of view (ie, they have it). They havent tried anything else and are not able to recomend something else.
1. SSD's don't slow down until they're 80/90%+ full, especially the newer SATA III drives. A Windows 7 install (non-lite) with user/temp files transferred to HDD takes less than 20GB. Sure, you might boot up 1/4 of a second faster if you buy a 128GB that is over triple the price of a 32GB drive. Definitely not worth the money.

2. GPU reviews aren't exactly the "best" source for getting information about how certain cards perform. You should take a look at benchmark threads on OCN. Newer games are just starting to use over 1GB VRAM, even at 1080p. Ex. BF3 is using ~1400MB as I posed earlier, which is substantially higher than 1GB. 1GB is definitely not "future proof," so I'm not sure why that was even mentioned. There's a reason that all the newer cards are coming with 1280MB + of VRAM.

3. The load of DOA reports is minimal compared to the number of people that have Asus 1155 boards that work completely fine. Your individual experience with the Asus 1155 board doesn't negate the fact that it is a great performer for it's price that works flawlessly for the vast majority of people who purchase it.
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Alright Zzari so I guess I'll downgrade from H100 to a H60.
And yea the reason I'm staying the Asus is because so many people tell me to get it and its the best.

And which GTX 580 should I get?
If you're planning to watercool, I would recommend an EVGA GTX580 1.5GB (not the classified or DS version). If you're not going to water cool, the EVGA Classified, MSI Twin Frozr II, MSI Lightning, and Gigabyte Windforce are good cards. You could still go with a regular EVGA GTX580 as long as your case's airflow is good (which it should be with the HAF X).

I would stay away from the triple slot cards (Asus Matrix, Asus DCII) as if you decide to SLI down the road it will be extremely difficult.

All the GTX580's are pretty similar - just pick a company who you're comfortable with that offers a warranty that pleases you. If you're trying to minimize cost, then the Zotac (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500184) is a fine choice.
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One, thats not true. They lose performance for any amount of data stored on them. 10% full and its not as fast as if it were blank. Granted at that point it would not be noticeable. But around 50% it is, in benchmarks anyway.

Out of the box, the larger the drive is, the faster it will be then its smaller counter part. Especially with newer SATAIII drives, a 120GB drive is almost as good as two 60GB in RAID0.

Also, again, the more space left un-partitioned, the more space there is for GC to work, keeping the drive performing as well as possible, and adding to the life of the drive.

If you figure 30GB for a full OS install and some basic apps, and maybe a game or two, and leaving 10% extra of the drive un-partitioned, that leaves around 30-32GB free of an 80GB SSD.



2nd, I have not tried BF3 yet, my rig is down at the moment, and it really doesnt seem as great as the hype is for it. For everything else, Ive never seen an issue with 1GB for 1080P or less. And again, I also said that if he didnt want to run everything on all ultra settings with max super AA and whatnot, a 6870 is a perfectly fine gaming card for 1080P for the money.


I never said there was really anything wrong with the ASUS board (other then the CPU_Fan header being bad, and the LLC not being the best). What I said was there is better stuff for the money. Why pay $200 for an ASUS board, when the Gig board with the combo deal I posted is just as good? OCing SNB is CPU based, you will get the same OC on different boards (provided they are complete junk), so there is no point in spending extra money thinking you will get a better OC. Also, all the 1155 boards are 8x8 PCIe lanes at best (except ones with added on chips for that), so again no point in spending more money on it.
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