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ah.. well it's either the 6950 or gtx 560 ti hawk

And I guess I'll just stick with 6950.
But I've read that ATI cards have really bad drivers, is it bad to were I can't use it or what?
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ah.. well it's either the 6950 or gtx 560 ti hawk

And I guess I'll just stick with 6950.
But I've read that ATI cards have really bad drivers, is it bad to were I can't use it or what?
ATI's drivers are fine. The reputation for bad drivers lingers on from years ago and is mainly mentioned by people trying to downplay the great price : performance ratio that ATI offers.
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Oh alright haha
Well I think that's it!
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Oh and should I change it to 2GB? It's a 1GB Card atm
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I'm not assuming you're a noob, but you're stating figures about SSD's that would scare anyone away from buying them. You must have had drives with terrible controllers because I have never seen proof of degradation that bad from someone who didn't have a faulty drive.

As for the GPU, you are trying to convince him to get something that will barely last another year. He has plenty of room in his budget for a better GPU, so why settle for less? He specifically stated that this rig's main focus was gaming, and as such GPU isn't something to skimp on. Why would he get the 1GB 6950 instead of paying an extra ~$30 more for the 2GB version? I'm not "forcing" anyone to get a 580 - the original list of parts I linked had the 6950 2GB. I merely suggested that if he wanted a bump in GPU performance that he would be fine to sacrifice elsewhere to get a 580.

With these types of threads it's all about getting the best bang for your buck. Your suggestions aren't exactly in line with the budget and primary goal for his rig.
Then why fight over the $200 ASUS board that offers nothing over many other much cheaper boards? He was looking at ~$530 for the CPU and that ASUS board, vs $450 for the CPU with the Gig board. That left over money could have been put to better use.

Also, a 580 does not offer better bang for buck then the other cards listed. Its great performance for a really high price. The best bang for buck card would actualy be the 6870 or similar. Once you pass that $200 mark for a vid card, you are usualy losing bang for buck to gain headroom. Id rather have a $200 card that plays everything now, then sell it in 6-12 months and get another $200 card, then pay $500 for a card that will last 24 months.


I suggested the 6950 1GB over the 2GB because like I said, I have not played BF3 on PC, and every other game plays the same on both cards at 1080P


Ive had Indilux drives, Sandforce drives, Intel drives, and Samsung drives, only ones I havent tried yet were Micron. The Indilux drives were ok, but degraded over time around 20-30%, the Sandforce drive I had degraded by how much space was left (about 30GB left, I had lost 45% of its performance). The Intel and Samsung drives Ive had no issues with, but they are 160Gb/128GB drives, and have 10% of space un-partitioned. Ive also had no issues with my Force GT 120GB, without any extra un-partitioned space.
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You won't need more than a gig for 1080p which is what that monitor offers, so the 2gb won't make a bit of difference unless you plan on doing dual monitors. I'm assuming you won't though.
    
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Yea I won't

So I guess that's everything!
Anything I should change?
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Then why fight over the $200 ASUS board that offers nothing over many other much cheaper boards? He was looking at ~$530 for the CPU and that ASUS board, vs $450 for the CPU with the Gig board. That left over money could have been put to better use.

Also, a 580 does not offer better bang for buck then the other cards listed. Its great performance for a really high price. The best bang for buck card would actualy be the 6870 or similar. Once you pass that $200 mark for a vid card, you are usualy losing bang for buck to gain headroom. Id rather have a $200 card that plays everything now, then sell it in 6-12 months and get another $200 card, then pay $500 for a card that will last 24 months.


I suggested the 6950 1GB over the 2GB because like I said, I have not played BF3 on PC, and every other game plays the same on both cards at 1080P


Ive had Indilux drives, Sandforce drives, Intel drives, and Samsung drives, only ones I havent tried yet were Micron. The Indilux drives were ok, but degraded over time around 20-30%, the Sandforce drive I had degraded by how much space was left (about 30GB left, I had lost 45% of its performance). The Intel and Samsung drives Ive had no issues with, but they are 160Gb/128GB drives, and have 10% of space un-partitioned. Ive also had no issues with my Force GT 120GB, without any extra un-partitioned space.
I should have been more specific. By bang for the buck I mean the most performance he can get out of his rig *as a whole* within his budget. Recommending an 80GB SSD and a 6950 1GB with a $1500 budget is not offering him the most performance for his money.

You also mention that you haven't played BF3 with the card, which is the game that he specifically mentioned. Why not allow him to run the game on ultra when his budget can easily afford him that pleasure?

As for the Gigabyte board, I don't feel comfortable recommending it because I haven't used it. Keep in mind that it is a P67 chipset vs the Asus Z68 chipset. Z68 offers a slight performance boost to SSD's, although it is marginal. I know ASUS boards to be good, and as such I feel completely comfortable recommending them.

In regards to the SSD's, this will be my last comment. It's unfortunate that you have had absolutely terrible luck with performance degradation, but it seems that your situation is isolated. OCN reviews and benchmarks of the M4 show nothing like what you are experiencing and many people have their drives 80%+ full. There is a huge difference between losing 5 MB/S benchmark performance and noticing any real life difference. Degree simply needs an SSD boot drive, and as such, a 64GB Crucial M4 is a great choice.
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You won't need more than a gig for 1080p which is what that monitor offers, so the 2gb won't make a bit of difference unless you plan on doing dual monitors. I'm assuming you won't though.
This is completely untrue regarding BF3 and newer games that are coming out. BF3 and many newer games use more than 1GB VRAM so if he's building right now with the specific intention of BF3 and future games in mind, there is no reason to not go with the 2GB card.

Go read with the BF3 Official Information thread. Everyone with 1.5GB - 3GB cards is seeing VRAM usage hovering around 1400MB which is substantially higher than 1GB.
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I've tried to ignore yalls comments about the SSDs haha.
And I also feel comfertable with the Asus also since I trust that brand the most, where as the gigabyte ive never used and all.

So everything I have is good right?
Compatible and everything?

And should I change to 2gb then?
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