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Ballin. And pretty cheap.


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hmm, i like these cases
I do love the sleek clean look of lian li cases
how well do they cool since a good number of them don't have top vent/fans?
can anyone tell me how well the silverstone tj07 does for air cooling? what about with added fans?
the xigmatek is nice but i would replace the fans with non-led fans
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Originally Posted by Zelx View Post
hmm, i like these cases
I do love the sleek clean look of lian li cases
how well do they cool since a good number of them don't have top vent/fans?
can anyone tell me how well the silverstone tj07 does for air cooling? what about with added fans?
the xigmatek is nice but i would replace the fans with non-led fans
sleek and clean?

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post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by Zelx View Post
the TJ11 is quite pricy, not sure if its worth the $600 bucks
and I like the specs on the Cosmos, would probably replace the front led fan though with a non led
hehe agreed, but you leave very little choice when you are trying to upgrade from a FT02 FT02 is the best air cooled case on the market right now. to upgrade from that, you really only have TJ11 since it's pretty much the FT02's big brother. anything else would be inferior for dust control and cooling capacity. you sir have been spoiled by FT02
post #15 of 21
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I agree, its tough with the ft02 being thee best air cooled case, i just wish it had a little more room
also about the corsair cases, how good is airflow in them once more fans are added?
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if by corsair you are referring to the 800D(since there aren't that many cases bigger then the FT02) then all I can say is it DOES have good airflow, but at a cost of dust.
as you can see here

there is 1 visible fan and 1 fan behind the corsair shroud attached to the drive cage. those are the only 2 "intake" 140mm fans in the case. here you see the intake fans get their air from a filtered source which is shared by the PSU

a tad of competition between the PSU fan and the case intake fan since we know air filter offer greater resistance if the PSU fan isn't spinning fast enough to counter the static pressure of the intake fans. if you have one of the modern PSU's that tend to have slow spinning fans at lower draw, you may very well be pulling hot air from the PSU if the intake fans are pumping hard.(or helped by the negative pressure of the case on top) this is less of a problem if you select the proper PSU so that when the fans are spinning hard, so is the psu fan.(high current draw)

now, getting to the problem of the case


I would like to direct your attention to above the mobo, behind the mobo, and below the mobo. those ventilation holes are completely unfiltered.... given there is a fan mount in the back shown in the picture and 3 fan mounts on top shown here

it's not hard to figure out that this is going to be a negative pressured case. (2 filtered intake vs 4 unfiltered exhaust + GPU exhausts) the static pressure of the case is going to be heavily negative and a large amount of dust will be pulled into the case over time.

given you have a FT02 and understand the physics behind what makes the FT02 what it is, I don't know if you are willing to put up with the 800D as a choice if you are looking for an air cooled solution.

you COULD however convert the 3 fan mounts on the top into intake fans(gonna need filters of course) and make it into a balanced pressure case (5 filtered intake vs 1 exhaust + GPU exhausts) 5 filtered intakes should provide enough CFM to make the case balanced or maybe slightly positive.(well, depending on how hard your GPU fans blow I suppose)
Edited by psyclum - 10/3/11 at 4:01am
post #17 of 21
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hmmm, true, but i do love tinkering
maybe i should just save up and get the tj11
that would give me more than enough space, airflow, and future water cooling if I so choose.
But I dont have the money yet for any of these cases so it will be a few months, its just nice to know my options
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post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by Zelx View Post
hmmm, true, but i do love tinkering
maybe i should just save up and get the tj11
that would give me more than enough space, airflow, and future water cooling if I so choose.
But I dont have the money yet for any of these cases so it will be a few months, its just nice to know my options
truth be told, there are plenty of fine options with reasonable price tags if you are willing to spend the extra $ to buy fan filters for them. the primary advantage of the FT02 is that it is able to accomplish so much while keeping every intake source filtered. something like this
on all your intake ports in cheaper case can accomplish what the FT02 has done in stock configuration. if you want to incorporate the ease of removal for the fan filter, then you would also need something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811988015
to put the filter in.
for 140mm fans this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999226
should work great since it's got magnets to hold itself in place.

you wont have the stack cooling effect, but it's less of an issue when you have positive case pressure.

what it comes down to is how "clean" your system looks. having a bunch fan filters sticking out the side might not be what you want to see.
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