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Same things happens

Just tried it..

It just doesn't make sense that IT WORKS when another monitor is involved.. that's the part that is confusing me..

I did some more reading and it seems that the card has a history of problems with TV's.. What just boggles my mind, is how a additional monitor can "make the TV work".
Edited by King_Yoshi - 10/8/11 at 8:37pm
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post #32 of 41
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I just got an idea and connected the computer to the monitor with a S-Video Cable, and it worked perfectly...



Now why in the world it won't with with the HMDI cable.. idk..

Still want to get the HMDI cable working, but this is a good start as it allows me to mess with the resolution and settings without having to hook up the monitor.


The other strange thing is that when I connect it with the S-cable, it is detecting it as a generic Plug and play monitor, not as a TV. When I had used the HDMI cable the TV was detected as a TV..

Also when using the S Cable it seems that the entire screen is shifted to the left off of the monitor. (I even checked the manual and am using the correct resolution of 1024 x 768.)

Also, when I had used the HDMI cable, as expected, the screen was much crisper, and did not have any of the problems mentioned above. (But that is because HDMI can deliver much better image quality)
Edited by King_Yoshi - 10/8/11 at 8:53pm
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post #33 of 41
The TV is either HDMI 1.0, 1.2 or 1.3 but not 1.4. Not compatible with the cards, but should be backward compatible with your TV. No idea. Have to look up the compatibility electrical signal comparison.

This is a good start where to look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_1.3
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From your video, I see from 0:22 to 0:23, there is the Dell logo on screen. It seems that these 2 seconds might be enough for you to enter into the BIOS (by pressing F2?). At least, I see from the upper right hand corner that you can go into Boot Menu by pressing F12. I think you can run Dell Diagnostic test within that.
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Yes, the video shows it can make it to POST screen but soon as driver loaded up, gone. Any driver support for your TV?
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post #36 of 41
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Originally Posted by windfire View Post
From your video, I see from 0:22 to 0:23, there is the Dell logo on screen. It seems that these 2 seconds might be enough for you to enter into the BIOS (by pressing F2?). At least, I see from the upper right hand corner that you can go into Boot Menu by pressing F12. I think you can run Dell Diagnostic test within that.
I had already tried this. Even if I go into bios the screen goes completely blank..

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Yes, the video shows it can make it to POST screen but soon as driver loaded up, gone. Any driver support for your TV?
I have no idea. How would i go about checking for this? Would it be on the Nvidia website?


On a side note:
I also started messing around with the settings in the Nvidia control panel.(While plugged in with the S-video cable) The TV manual says that the refresh rate should be set to 60Hz but when i went to test it, under "Create Custom Resolution" it says that the settings were "not compatible".
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post #37 of 41
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I also now went ahead and tested the TV with my macbook pro laptop.

I had no problems whatsoever when using it. I was able to get the TV to work on the 1080 pi. setting flawlessly... (But then again a laptop has a screen so once again I was using 2 screens)

I am running out of things to test...

Ok I also found this article, which seems to describe some of the problems I am having.. Maybe you can help me decipher it, or maybe it offers something useful..

Quote:
8800GT TV Out solution
As you may already know, I recently bought a new PC. My new and cool PC is powered by Nvidia's Geforce 8800GT chipset based graphics card. When doing the market research about which graphics card to buy, I read comparisons, benchmarks and relied upon other people experience, thinking "Hey, I have a good experience with Nvidia, this looks like the best buy". Well, I learned that while all of this is important, it's even more important to look for known problems. Especially of other people using the same features you are planning to use.
A simple web search shows many people are having many problems connecting these cards to their TVs. The two problems I'm aware of

* DVI-to-HDMI would pass audio signal, even though there is no audio output. This would prevent the TV from playing sound coming over other cables (such as RCA).
* S-Video won't detect your TV, which forces you to use component or composite connections for CRTs. This sucks.

As for the later, I just found a solution. The easiest solution is to use Linux, and configure xorg.conf on your own (heard there's a wizard for configuring that, I should check that out). This would allow you to define your exact parameters for the connection: S-Video using PAL-B (Israel), and 1024x768 60Hz (written as 1024x768_60) should do the work.
If you insist using Windows, I can dispense some advice, assuming you use XP (don't have Vista, don't want to). The problem arises from the drivers (forceware) and Nvidia's control panel. It seems that the new control panel assumes you want your TV to be auto-detected, and if the auto-detection fails, you won't get any other option. Moreover, even if the control panel's wizard thinks it has detected your TV, but it actually fails, you are stuck. The most common phenomena is the TV screen flickers for a second or so with your desktop, and than returns to it's blue state. In the mean while, the driver is sure that everything works perfectly, so no further configuration is allowed. This is where most of the forum threads in the Internet says "replace the 8800GT with something else". And then I found this very helpful lead. Basically, it suggests to get back the classic Nvidia control panel, and try to configure stuff there, as the rest of his advice, it didn't help me. So i found this help site that explains how to do that. After changing the value of ContextUIPolicy to 3, I got the classic control panel. Now, I could use the wizard that says "My display is not in the list" and then turn on the "'Rigorous Display Detection". Finally, the TV connection wizard allowed me to use other settings then "Auto Detect", so I could choose "S-Video". After doing so, my TV came to life, and started to display my desktop as "Monitor 2". Some final tweaks were required, such as setting the region to "PAL/B" (otherwise, screen flicker would occur in Israel and western Europe) and setting the resolution, and that's it! Notice that the lead I found only managed to get B/W picture, while I managed to get full color.
Hope this guide saved someone from deep frustration, and happy TV watching everyone.
From: HERE

(Too bad I am not running Linux..)
Edited by King_Yoshi - 10/8/11 at 10:14pm
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post #38 of 41
Try these:-
1) Use both cables (S-video cable and the DVI-to-HDMI cable) to connect the 8800GT to the TV and see what happens.

2) Go to Nvidia Control Panel and save Custom Resolutions of 1280 x 768 (60Hz) and 1280 x 720 (60Hz), with the S-video cable. Then, use the DVI-to-HDMI cable alone and see if you get any picture.

3) I have looked through the User Manual of that TV and it does not mention anything regarding renaming but perhaps the manual is not very updated.
Anyway, go through all the Menus of the TV and see if it offers a place for you to rename/re-label the name of each input source. If so, rename the HDMI 1 to 'PC' or 'PC-HDMI' or 'HDMI-PC'...etc


Question: With the 8800GT connected to the HDTV with the S-video cable, does the Control Panel give the correct name ' Sylvania LD320SS1 ' in Change Resolution under Display or you get 'Generic PnP 32'' '? See diagram 1.
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Try these:-
1) Use both cables (S-video cable and the DVI-to-HDMI cable) to connect the 8800GT to the TV and see what happens.
I am able to do this, and the computer thinks that 1 "Generic non-PNP Device" and 1 TV are attached.

I am able to go on the TV and switch between the two desktops.

If I set the "duplicate displays" both work, but it forces the HDMI to the lower resolution, so it looks like the S-Cable resolution.

"Extended Desktop" also works, but has the same problems mentioned previously.

If I set to "Extended Desktop" the S cable works normally but the HDMI does not go to the full screen length. (Cuts off the sides, and is definitely NOT HD. When I had used the monitor and the TV, this was not a problem, it always went to full screen and looked very sharp.)

Quote:
2) Go to Nvidia Control Panel and save Custom Resolutions of 1280 x 768 (60Hz) and 1280 x 720 (60Hz), with the S-video cable. Then, use the DVI-to-HDMI cable alone and see if you get any picture.
When i try to set the custom Resolution to 60 Hz it says the setting is "not supported" with this monitor. I am able to get it to the 1280 x 768. The 1280 x 720 does not work, and it gives the same "not supported" message.

The highest Hz I can go up to is 29 when using Custom Resolutions, which is very odd...






Quote:
3) I have looked through the User Manual of that TV and it does not mention anything regarding renaming but perhaps the manual is not very updated.
Anyway, go through all the Menus of the TV and see if it offers a place for you to rename/re-label the name of each input source. If so, rename the HDMI 1 to 'PC' or 'PC-HDMI' or 'HDMI-PC'...etc
I went through the TV options, and you can not rename anything.

Quote:
Question: With the 8800GT connected to the HDTV with the S-video cable, does the Control Panel give the correct name ' Sylvania LD320SS1 ' in Change Resolution under Display or you get 'Generic PnP 32'' '? See diagram 1.

Under Appearance and Personalization -> Display -> Screen Resolution
With the S-Video it gives "Generic non-PnP Device". With the HDMI cable it gives "Sylvania" as the monitor type.



Under Nvidia Control Panel

S-Video is called HDTV, and HDMI is called Sylvania.

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This $25.99 will solve it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102922
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