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well yes triple xfire will work.
also you could think about getting one 6990 (dual bios) which you can oc either
and one 6950 (unlocked to 6970) or one 6970. would be triple xfire with 2 cards!

better cooling possibility cause you only need 2 cards
This!!

Hmmm how bout the CaseLabs M8 case? Very high quality case and very customizable, plus, can be very good for air cooling.
On the motherboard side you can install 3 120mm top fans, 3 120mm fans in the bottom, and a possibility to mount 3 120mm fans in the front; and 1 120mm in the rear. Same thing goes for the PSU side, but except no rear fan. You can also get the case doors and top, and front ventilated.

Only thing is price and no fan filters
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post #22 of 42
Psyclum,

Once again, all I'm hearing from you is a tremendous amount of ancedotal information, personal bias, subjective opinion, and thoughts supplemented by nothing more than conjecture and heresay.

When I requested actual information that would independently verify the claims being made by yourself, nothing was given; instead, this was offered...

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and i suppose you have empirical data to back up your claims as well?
...because you thought I was doing the same as yourself; posting opinion. Instead, you got actual third-party empirical data to support my case recommendation.

So, I'll ask yet again:

Tell you what; instead of posting a plethora of opinion substantiated by nothing other than forum banter, could you please link us to any instrumented testing that would verify your suppositions?

In other words, I'm seeking data to support the notion that with all available fan slots filled, the 800D is woefully inadequate for air cooling.


As well, since you've up to now avoided the actual subject of performance, and want to talk about something different: Could you please link us to any information that would verify your statements outright libel about the 800D being unsuitable due to your own perceived dust issues plaguing this design?
Edited by jlells01 - 10/3/11 at 3:03am
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When I requested actual information that would independently verify the claims being made by yourself, nothing was given
sigh... I guess more explaining is required for this one...

unknowingly to yourself, YOU have already provided the data I need to demonstrate the superiority of the FT02...
notice the fan filters below the 180mm fans pulled half way out to show it IS working with filtered air.

and the independent fan filter behind the powersupply


with 3 180mm FILTERED intake fans and only 1 120mm exhaust fan on top. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out this is going to be a positive pressure case. but you say you NEED proof.... here is the FT01 demonstrating what it looks like with only 2 of the FILTERED 180mm intake fans

now, the OTHER reason why FT02 performs so well. here is the RV01 demonstrating the stack effect cooling that the FT02 was engineered on.

for more recent FT02's (within the last year) they benefit from the air penetrator fans as well that is shown here

now you MAY say that I'm avoiding the question at hand, I'm not. YOUR data showed that the FT02 performed as well as the 800D. why would that make the FT02 superior? I would direct your attention to this picture

take note above, behind, and below the motherboard mounting location. those are vent holes that are completely UNFILTERED. with 2 filtered intake fans(reduced CFM due to filter) and 4 unfiltered exhaust fans + all the exhaust fans for the GPU's. it doesn't take a genius to figure out the case will have negative static pressure. the UNFILTERED vent holes on a negative static pressure case becomes INTAKE holes. meaning the amount of dust entering the case is directly proportional to how hard you run your machine.

so... you have a case with positive pressure from using nothing but filtered intake air vs a negative pressured case that is pulling from largely unfiltered vent holes performing about the same and you don't see which case is superior?

YOU are the one offering the data. I simply showed you how to read it properly.
Edited by psyclum - 10/3/11 at 4:42am
post #24 of 42
Yet again Psyclum, you can't answer the questions; your claims are as follows:

1. The 800D is woefully inadequate for air cooling due to a poor design.
(The data shows that unfounded opinion to be patently false. Instead of apologizing, or even admitting to posting something erroneous, you attack on another front to divert attention...)
2. The 800D is poorly engineered and unusable as a case due to dust concerns.
(We're talking about the 800D here, and the 800D specifically - not a bunch of random videos. Link us to something that supports your position, such as an 800D owner who is experiencing, as you say that would happen, incredible dust issues.)

If you're going to come out swinging against the quality and engineering of an 800D (or anything for that matter), provide actual data and evidence to support such statements. As in stands, your posts are a disservice to the people that come here looking for solid, factual information.
Edited by jlells01 - 10/3/11 at 12:54pm
post #25 of 42

800D is not worth the money, but this is just my opinion.

a very, very, VERY good case is definitely the Silver Stone TJ11, also the TJ07 or the RV02-E next to the HAF-X (lol sorry but i just love my Tower)

since the TJ11 is hell of a expensive, get the CoolerMaster :troll

found this nice preview, the Tower is truly insane:


Edited by justanewguy - 10/3/11 at 12:50pm
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post #26 of 42
i did what u want to do. 3 x 6970 (i did 6950) temps were high and i tried every thing and they were still high. and LOUD

In the end i went WC.

If you do not want to do WC ing, do yourself a favour and just get a 6990 and a 6950/70.

If your running 3 screen that will do everything apart from crysis 1 or 2, if u want to do crysis wait 3 years and buy a rig then.

Note: some of these cases may work (i've heard good thing about them) but NOT as well as two card rather than 3.
Edited by alias 86 - 10/3/11 at 12:58pm
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post #27 of 42
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800D is not worth the money, but this is just my opinion.

a very, very, VERY good case is definitely the Silver Stone TJ11
So the 800D "isn't worth the money" at $269, but you then immediately go on to recommend a case that's 145% more expensive?
post #28 of 42
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Looking at benchmarks on the FT02 I found the following: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=7

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However, I can't help but be disappointed with some aspects of the case. A high-end enthusiast-level case like this where advanced cooling is a primary feature really should feature 8 card slots; but this design even compromises the use of the 7th slot.
I've never done triCF but I assume skimping on space there might hinder me?!?
post #29 of 42
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So the 800D "isn't worth the money" at $269, but you then immediately go on to recommend a case that's 145% more expensive?
quality + performance is not so well in the 800D
also i recommended the TJ07, the RV02-E or the HAF-X which arent that expensive as the TJ11.

i just wanted to throw this into the conversation
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post #30 of 42
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i did what u want to do. 3 x 6970 (i did 6950) temps were high and i tried every thing and they were still high. and LOUD

In the end i went WC.

If you do not want to do WC ing, do yourself a favour and just get a 6990 and a 6950/70.

If your running 3 screen that will do everything apart from crysis 1 or 2, if u want to do crysis wait 3 years and buy a rig then.

Note: some of these cases may work (i've heard good thing about them) but NOT as well as two card rather than 3.
My plan would be to run eyefinity, I'm not certain that it will happen with BF3 given beta results, but there are a number of other games that would be fun in eyefinity.

Now with the 6990+6970 setup I believe that I read I would need to overclock the 6990 to match the performance speed/clocking of the 6970. I wasn't sure if the additional heat there would make (3) 6970s a better route.
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