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Why don't you wait for the actual release of the game before looking at upgrades. At that time you'll be in a better position to make that kind of decision.
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So I've always heard there's no reason to do SLI on 580s if you're not gaming above 1920x1200. However, I've been hearing that most people with a single 580 have been getting around 40-60 fps (closer to 60 indoors, closer to 40 outdoors) in the BF3 beta on ULTRA and 80+ with two 580s in SLI. With that said, is it still pointless to do SLI 580s if you're only on 1920x1200?
Man I battled many people when it came to just using my 3GB card and a single display. Simply put, it is really... at leaste in my eyes all about 120hz hands down. Higher res monitors like 1920x1200 are just for looks and not to perform for gaming. Which if you chech the specs most of those monitors are NOT 120hz and are capped at 60hz, trust me if there was one that was higher res and 120hz I would had it, or maybe I missed it? But yeah, I've noticed that most of those high res monitors also have 5+ ms on them.... which if you are gonna game on it you want as little as possible right?

So no, its not pointless to have SLI on a single display at all... Who the hell needs 3 monitors ? If you are a serious and competitive gamer then one will do it just fine. The one I am using kicks face in! >_< 120hz with 2ms is a HUGE difference vs. 60hz 27' 1ms ( Which is not bad either). Please don't get suckered in by the "More pixels = win" because really it doesn't. Get your second card if you want or, get a monitor like mines for 120hz which will last longer than the card.
    
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Everything maxed out for me is 40ish outside and 60ish inside, just like you said in your first post. This is with a slight OC (850/1700) on my GPU and 4.5GHz on my CPU. If this performance is what the final release of BF3 will play like, then, if you think it is worth it, go SLI. It's up to you.
40ish is pretty much unacceptable so I prob would need to go SLI, BUT the above poster is correct. Might be better to just wait for the final game to be released to make a judgment on that.
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Man I battled many people when it came to just using my 3GB card and a single display. Simply put, it is really... at leaste in my eyes all about 120hz hands down. Higher res monitors like 1920x1200 are just for looks and not to perform for gaming. Which if you chech the specs most of those monitors are NOT 120hz and are capped at 60hz, trust me if there was one that was higher res and 120hz I would had it, or maybe I missed it? But yeah, I've noticed that most of those high res monitors also have 5+ ms on them.... which if you are gonna game on it you want as little as possible right?

So no, its not pointless to have SLI on a single display at all... Who the hell needs 3 monitors ? If you are a serious and competitive gamer then one will do it just fine. The one I am using kicks face in! >_< 120hz with 2ms is a HUGE difference vs. 60hz 27' 1ms ( Which is not bad either). Please don't get suckered in by the "More pixels = win" because really it doesn't. Get your second card if you want or, get a monitor like mines for 120hz which will last longer than the card.
There are more opinions that your own, you know. Some of us like 16:10 fov. Some of us also have more use for our computer than playing CSS at 600fps, in which screen real-estate is a nice thing to have. 120hz is nice if you're a competitive gamer to be sure, but for the rest of use its not necessary and we might enjoy a bigger screen. Considering many modern games can't even be locked in at 120fps vsync, your point is limited to a very small audience (aka competitive gamers or 3D users).
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i have sli 580 and am getting between 80 to 113fps, i am also thinking of getting another gtx580 for 3 way sli for maximum over kill.
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i don't think this overkill thingy exists on ocn....580SLI would run ANY game maxed on a single monitor
    
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i have sli 580 and am getting between 80 to 113fps, i am also thinking of getting another gtx580 for 3 way sli for maximum over kill.
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Let me sort this out.

Stacking GPU cards into SLI or XFire configurations yields better framerates at a given graphics setting. That is ALL they do. It allows the cards to share the work of creating individual image frames and displaying them.

Buying a GPU with more memory (3GB vs 1.5GB, for example) will allow the graphics card to put together bigger (more detailed, higher resolution) images before they are displayed onscreen and maintain the same FPS, all other factors staying constant.

No matter the number of GPUs you run in unison, they will never make up performance losses when the images they are collectively producing are scraping the bottom of their memory bank. At 1920 x 1200, 1.5GB cards in SLI is JUST enough in more recent, graphically demanding titles, and I regret not waiting and getting two 3GBers, because demands of future games are just gonna be greater.

So, what in the name of God are these people on about with "SLI is overkill"? It may be overkill for World of Tanks or Minecraft, but most of us play more games than DX9 MMOs and the like. If you think higher (smoother, better) rates of performance are "pointless" then yes, a GTX 580 SLI setup is pointless. But if you want more frames per second onscreen, then it is not. It's like these people sit down in front of an SLI system running like that and think to themselves "Naw, yeah this gameplay is way too smooth and doesn't stutter or anything, total overkill."

Like, come on. A GTX 580 SLI system, like mine, is pushed to its limit on games like The Witcher 2 and the BF 3 beta. These games and the games VERY soon to come in the near future do and will make very efficient and full use of the available GPU computing power. The only way this would be overkill is if it did not in any way benefit performance, and, infact, had a detrimental impact on the gaming experience. There is no such thing as "too smooth" or "too high quality" when it comes to PC games IMHO, because I can't fathom spending the time and money we do on our machines if we didn't demand the absolute best possible gaming experience.
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Man I battled many people when it came to just using my 3GB card and a single display. Simply put, it is really... at leaste in my eyes all about 120hz hands down. Higher res monitors like 1920x1200 are just for looks and not to perform for gaming. Which if you chech the specs most of those monitors are NOT 120hz and are capped at 60hz, trust me if there was one that was higher res and 120hz I would had it, or maybe I missed it? But yeah, I've noticed that most of those high res monitors also have 5+ ms on them.... which if you are gonna game on it you want as little as possible right?

So no, its not pointless to have SLI on a single display at all... Who the hell needs 3 monitors ? If you are a serious and competitive gamer then one will do it just fine. The one I am using kicks face in! >_< 120hz with 2ms is a HUGE difference vs. 60hz 27' 1ms ( Which is not bad either). Please don't get suckered in by the "More pixels = win" because really it doesn't. Get your second card if you want or, get a monitor like mines for 120hz which will last longer than the card.
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There are more opinions that your own, you know. Some of us like 16:10 fov. Some of us also have more use for our computer than playing CSS at 600fps, in which screen real-estate is a nice thing to have. 120hz is nice if you're a competitive gamer to be sure, but for the rest of use its not necessary and we might enjoy a bigger screen. Considering many modern games can't even be locked in at 120fps vsync, your point is limited to a very small audience (aka competitive gamers or 3D users).
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i see my fps drop to 40 at times in the bf3 beta and that to me is very noticeable. this is all on ultra and at 1080p

since SLI is the obvious solution, when kepler is released, how much of a price drop on the current 580's is expected? i haven't been around long enough for a gpu refresh

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