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I read in another forum that some other causes to the already known long list of causes for the YLOD in the old PS3s is moving the PS3 while it's still hot. Doing this can probably displace either the RSX or CPU and cause the YLOD. Just tapping it could make either one move ever so slightly that it causes your system to fail the next time you turn it on. And also that after the PS3 shuts down the fan turns off in about 2 seconds, but the RSX and CPU chips are still hot. If Sony made it so the fan stayed on to cool the PS3 down (like in projectors) this would help to increase the life of PS3s, or at least find a way to properly dissipate the heat during and after hours of use.

I know the slims somewhat take care of the heat issue but some people still have their 60 GBs worrying when it's going to break. And when it does the only hope of a permanent fix is reballing.

I wouldn't recommend reflowing because some people end up warping their motherboards and end up making it worse. But you have to realize that once you get the YLOD, your PS3 is done for and reballing is really a trial and error because once you screw up a reball, the motherboard is officially destroyed.

So, if every month maybe people that still have the old 60, 40, 80, or maybe even 20 GB PS3s they can just use a vacuum and suck the dust from the vents and try to keep their PS3s cool during and after playing Oh..and I'm no expert. This is just stuff I've learned on my own through many Google searches.

I've bought a used 80 GB (4 usb) PS3 from Ebay and i'm trying to make sure that it lasts me for at least as long as my PS2 has lasted (8 years and counting, but that's highly unlikely). So If anyone has any ideas on how to maybe install extra fans would be appreciated.
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There are intake fans and intercoolers being sold on eBay, they help with the airflow and usually connect via USB or the main power connector behind the PS3.

Do not place and use the PS3 vertically, use it horizontally.

Let the PS3 work in an area which fresh air frequents. Add fans around the room to move fresh air.

After playing a game extensively, leave the PS3 idle a bit in the XMB menu. A couple of minutes. This should help cooling off the hardware before shutting down the PS3.

Folding in the PS3 generates A LOT of heat. Specially in those 90nm phat PS3's.
     
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It would seem that the fan is really to blame here. If the ps3 had better cooling the solder probably would last longer. The fan does not increase speed to compensate for the rising temperatures, and after a few hours of gaming someone would shut their console off leaving all that heat still trapped inside the PS3.
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never had an issue, but it is hot.

I use it vertical and horizontal depending on where I am. I think it stays cooler horizontal as well, but my apartment has no room for that option anymore.

There is a way to get the fans to run at 100% and self clean....

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Add better thermal compound because Sony used toothpaste.

And there is another thread in here that discusses adding a PC fan to actually get some cool air in. If my FAT still worked I would do that.
 
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Never had a problem with my slim, but I have worked with Surface mount electronics and circuit boards (soldering, de-soldering with hot air and soldering iron) and based on my experience solder would only melt at temperatures higher than 220 degrees C which would then cause Micro-controllers and microchips (CPU, RSX) to displace or move.

At 80 degrees, the solder is still very solid and no way any component could be displaced from its place.

Maybe the CPU and other components cannot support these high temps that they would eventually break where the only solution is a direct replacement.

Another thing is that PCBs are multilayered, boards i have worked with had a total of six layers, other boards have more.
High temperatures will cause these boards to become a bit flexible, small pressure on the board could break copper wires in any inside layer which I would think is the same scenario happening in quickly moving a PS3 system while its still hot.
Any damage to any inside layer is not repairable, the motherboard should then be replaced.
Edited by Flakdiode - 10/3/11 at 6:21am
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Well, from personal experience, I can tell you the following: I've had a fat 60GB PS3 pretty much since launch day (give or take a few weeks). I've always put it in a well ventilated area and let it cool for about 30 mins before transporting it. I also tried my best to clear any dust (using a combination of canned air and a vacuum cleaner). And yet this year I got struck twice by the YLOD. The first time I sent it in for repairs, the second time was last saturday, and at that point I decided all hope was gone and I should just get a new PS3 slim (which in my opinion looks nowhere near as good as the fat model). So my opinion on the matter is that wether or not you'll get the YLOD is more a question of bad luck than system care.
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Some simple ways to keep cool:

-Vacuuming out the intakes is a no brainer, sucks in air means it sucks in dust.
-keep it in a relatively open area if you can.
-Put it on its side so the underside is exposed.
Edited by mothrpe - 10/3/11 at 10:01am
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