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It's their business model, but it makes sense to me. With so many users opting for a 64g iPad 2, it works for others as well.
It makes perfect sense as a business model, but not when looking at it as a consumer. Since you'd be spending your money on such a product, not profiting from it, it's your responsibility to question whether or not the increased cost is justified.
Edited by Manyak - 10/3/11 at 12:54pm
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Should be a good phone, knowing Apple they won't include a heavy GPU if the battery life suffers greatly. I won't be getting rid of my iPhone 4 anytime soon though.

Props to steelbom for being one of the very few Apple supporters that handles Apple related threads professionally. Others (I think we all know who I'm alluding to) should learn from your ways.
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They did iPad 1 to iPhone 4.
They had to declock the bugger too...didn't they?
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They had to declock the bugger too...didn't they?
Underclocked to 900 MHz, I believe.

Anyways, I'm also interested at how Apple will respond to this current spec wars going on in the mobile realm. I'd think they could potentially be on par with top-end Android devices, but given Apple's propensity of releasing models once per year, the iPhone 5, 4S can be overshadowed by newer competitors in mere months. Maybe even just weeks if the Google Nexus Prime would sport the technical prowess the rumors make it out to be.
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I guess next year I will get the Android's response to this.
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did you consider the scale of each device? the battery life will be decent considering the size of the device. an sgs2 under heavy use cant even get through a single day. normal use puts me on a must charge every night status.

try fitting ipad2 performance hardware in less then half the size and expect good batterylife. could they do it, yes, but the price would have it exceed the ipad2 which most users or companies would not see a profit value from. 200+ phones on contract dont sell well.

heres to if they pull it off.
The point I'm trying to make is, there should only be a small increase in power consumption, if not a decrease, unless both GPU cores are running (gaming).
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To both of you:

Since the A4 was just a rank-in-file Samsung ARM Cortex A8 design, the same CPU Samsung sold in it's other smart phones (at a lower clock) I'm assuming the A5 (iPad 2) is the same case. A rank-in-file Cortex A9 CPU from Samsung.

The "A5" in iPhone 5 will be a rank-in-file quallcomm CPU, which are vastly interior to samsungs.

Apple owns their own ARM designs? I doubt it. They've never used them if they do. I'd be surprised if apple employs any engineers with CPU design credentials. That's not the business they're in.


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That's very wrong. Apple acquired Intrinsity for exactly that kind of stuff. The A4 and A5 is not anyone's design but their own.
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That's very wrong. Apple acquired Intrinsity for exactly that kind of stuff. The A4 and A5 is not anyone's design but their own.
Thx for clearing that up!!!

Problem, why is WSJ speculating the new A5 is slower than the old one (iPad 2) clock for clock?


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It makes perfect sense as a business model, but not when looking at it as a consumer. Since you'd be spending your money on such a product, not profiting from it, it's your responsibility to question whether or not the increased cost is justified.
Part of the reason they can make a retail $209 8gb iPod touch (very cheap!) is that some people buy much more expensive 64gb iPod touches.

Kinda the same way really expensive 1st class tickets help bring ticket prices down for economy class.
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Thx for clearing that up!!!

Problem, why is WSJ speculating the new A5 is slower than the old one (iPad 2) clock for clock?


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No idea, but we'll see soon enough how powerful the A5 in the iPhone is
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Part of the reason they can make a retail $209 8gb iPod touch (very cheap!) is that some people buy much more expensive 64gb iPod touches.

Kinda the same way really expensive 1st class tickets help bring ticket prices down for economy class.
$209 for an outdated iTouch2G is not cheap - they've already recouped all the fixed costs associated with it tenfold (R&D, manufacturing tooling, programming, advertising, etc), and are running it at purely a manufacturing+distribution cost vs revenue. The same goes for all of its components, meaning that it's cheaper to make now than it has ever been. Also, don't forget that part of the cost of the newer iTouches is included to fund iOS updates and device support. The 8GB iTouch is no longer supported in 5.0 and future updates, and therefore Apple isn't incurring any running cost on it either. If I had to guess, I'd estimate their cost per unit sold at only ~$60, if even that much.


At the end of the day, however, something's value is worth the price that people are willing to pay for it. If you feel that it's worth spending $209 to get one, then that's up to you. But don't think for a second that it's cheap.
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