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Originally Posted by Manyak View Post
$209 for an outdated iTouch2G is not cheap - they've already recouped all the fixed costs associated with it tenfold (R&D, manufacturing tooling, programming, advertising, etc), and are running it at purely a manufacturing+distribution cost vs revenue. The same goes for all of its components, meaning that it's cheaper to make now than it has ever been. Also, don't forget that part of the cost of the newer iTouches is included to fund iOS updates and device support. The 8GB iTouch is no longer supported in 5.0 and future updates, and therefore Apple isn't incurring any running cost on it either. If I had to guess, I'd estimate their cost per unit sold at only ~$60, if even that much.


At the end of the day, however, something's value is worth the price that people are willing to pay for it. If you feel that it's worth spending $209 to get one, then that's up to you. But don't think for a second that it's cheap.
The $229 iPod touch 4 8GB is supported by iOS 5, as is the third generation iPod touch.
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Sorry but... I do not see this happening, at all.

If it does, how much is battery gonna last? A couple of hours, like the 3DS? This is a mobile phone, not a handheld gaming device which most of the time you use plugged into the wall, laying in your sofa.

Although if it does happen, and battery does last at least a day (which means 2hrs of gaming, 4hrs of browsing and some calling), I'll be very impressed.


Won't buy one, but will most certainly impress me.
Newer nodes help power usage easily, my SGS2 has a dual core at 45nm and has great battery life, if they're at 32nm it's no problem, 45nm? Still good, knowing Apple.
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Comparing a single core GPU vs a dual core ofc it's going to be double performance . "Everyday" performance is probably going to be the same as the SII. The iPhone 5 will probably be eclipsed by the SIII when it arrives early next year.
The SGSII, iPad2/iPhone 5/4S and SGSIII will all be impossible to tell the difference between, assuming you just connected them to another screen and had the same OS, no-one would notice the difference because they're already so fast.

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So, you have a graphics processor that is eight times as powerful and is manufactured using a very similar (if not the same) manufacturing process, and you expect it to eat the same power?
Exynos and the A4 both use 45nm iirc, yet one is 4 times as fast in that benchmark.

Efficiency improvements make anything possible.

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Absolutely not. Every ARM manufacturer has their own proprietary GPU design. Only the basic core architecture is similar. Quallcomm in particular, has yet to produce a single true ARM Cortex A9 CPU.

They are building chips that are hybrid A8/A9 designs. They perform fine, but will have [b]nothing[\\b] in common with the iPad 2's "A5" CPU.

The term "Apple A5" has no meaning. An "A5" is whatever Apple says it is.
I'm pretty sure Apple design the chips in house, then outsource for production ala AMD or nVidia.

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You are still confusing me. You're telling me that Qualcomm cannot build a chip based on Apple's propriety ARM designs? So the SGX543MP2 on an iPad would be different on an iPhone if Qualcomm builds it? I dunno, but that doesn't like what's happening here.
There is the chance of performance and power consumption changing if Qualcomm have a different node.

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But can it run Crysis?

That joke is about as cool and funny as "Bronies".

ie. Not at all.
    
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$209 for an outdated iTouch2G is not cheap - they've already recouped all the fixed costs associated with it tenfold (R&D, manufacturing tooling, programming, advertising, etc), and are running it at purely a manufacturing+distribution cost vs revenue. The same goes for all of its components, meaning that it's cheaper to make now than it has ever been. Also, don't forget that part of the cost of the newer iTouches is included to fund iOS updates and device support. The 8GB iTouch is no longer supported in 5.0 and future updates, and therefore Apple isn't incurring any running cost on it either. If I had to guess, I'd estimate their cost per unit sold at only ~$60, if even that much.


At the end of the day, however, something's value is worth the price that people are willing to pay for it. If you feel that it's worth spending $209 to get one, then that's up to you. But don't think for a second that it's cheap.
Manyak why are you bent on misinformation, or are you just misinformed? The 4G ipod touch is about a year old, but all new hardware and design when in came out.

960x640 display, 4 point multitouch capacitative screen, bluetooth, wifi N, great sound, imessage, ios 4 now 5 when it comes out, gyro, accelormeter, HD video rear cam, facetime vga front cam etc.

Remote headphones, app store, access to hardware like clocks, guitar preamps, fitness modules, sleep analyzers, midi keyboards, dj equipment, etc.

Not to mention the design, it's elegant and thin with excellent battery life.

Show me a competing product that has more value?????

8gb 209
32gb 275
64gb 365

Seeing as you can't even buy microsd in 64g sizes... well it may make sense that the touch will never have a sd slot.
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Did Donaimhaber spark off this fake mumbo jumbo?
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Why are they comparing a tablet to smartphones?
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ahem... Just picked up my Samsung Galaxy S 2... and loving it...
I have to admit that my original iPad 1 has better battery still... but am not complaining about any performance issues...
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ahem... Just picked up my Samsung Galaxy S 2... and loving it...
I have to admit that my original iPad 1 has better battery still... but am not complaining about any performance issues...
When was Galaxy S2 released??? I saw no announcements!!!


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Seeing as you can't even buy microsd in 64g sizes... well it may make sense that the touch will never have a sd slot.
MicroSD + Flash like the Galaxy S II.

eg. 16GB + 32GB = 48GB, rather than 16, 32 or 64GB and nothing else.
    
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MicroSD + Flash like the Galaxy S II.

eg. 16GB + 32GB = 48GB, rather than 16, 32 or 64GB and nothing else.
Exactly !!!
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Exactly !!!
Except microsd has a much higher failure rate.
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