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Well it's a samsung tv, I can play xbox etc at 1080p, and I can select the 1080p resolution on my pc. But it comes out kind of weird, though im not sure if that's the tv or just that my 8800gt/amd x2 simply can't handle it. (this is my old rig btw I have new stuff shipping)

looking at prices it seems a 2560x1600 is completely out of the question lol so I don't have to worry about a resolution like that. Looks like ill probably be going 1920 x 1080 with another monitor on the side
It's underscan/overscan...you can fix this. (Referring to the black bars or chopped off edges, if that's your problem.)

Well, for 1920x1080, I'd still recommend the 6970 for my aforementioned reasons (minus the VRAM issue).
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Never used a 6970, but the 570 is awesome. But honestly I would say the 6970 here for the vRAM. I'm only at 1600*900 and at 1080p or higher more will help with newer games.
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Ok so I'm definitely leaning towards the 6970 based on the responses in this thread it seems its essentially better in almost every way, if only slightly.

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Well its makes a slight different as the added vRam will be a lot more beneficial to you if you're playing at 1080p or 2560 x 1200 then say at lower resolutions.

I've used a mount of different cards in both crossfire and sli, at 1920 x 1080 and 6000 x 1080 ( 3 monitors) and I have to say that if its the 570 vs the the 6970 I'd pick the 6970 even with its sometimes unreliable/picky drivers. The reason soley due to the fact that games are using a lot more vRAM then they used to and that 500MB will make a large difference for frames on high quality settings for those for-mentioned resolutions.
Is the driver thing every truly an issue though? It seems like this is hard to gauge as most responses are really biased but reading on the swtor and battlefied 3 forums it seems there are minor issues but both of these are betas so it's hard to worry too much about it.

Does either eyefinity or surround have an advantage to the other? This is pretty much my only lingering thought, and its really not even much of an issue as I probably wouldn't get another 570 for a while.

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If its 19 inch, I doubt it is 1080p.

I would get the 6970. GTX 570 performance, and CFX scaling that matches/beats 580 SLI.

EDIT: Cooling wise, they will be about the same, with both using TFIII coolers.

Overclocking wise, the 6970 should do better as a Lightning card.

Reliability/safe?/cooler, at idle, I find the 580 to be cooler than the 6970 when both cards run 2 1080p monitors, but at load running 1080p games, the 6970 is cooler.

Safe, with MSI's prowess at making GPUs, I can say that both cards are reliable...and safe? They wont explode I can tell you that. But when you buy the card, do take note of the temps.

As I did have a 6970 Lightning one (TAKE NOTE OF THE LENGTH- LONGEST CARD ON THE MARKET), the temps at idle was 55 degrees and load at stock was 83 degrees, waaay too high (580 Lightning ran at 70 load). Got it back to the store, got it replaced, new card ran at 47 degrees idle, 68 degree load.
Well I don't have the case yet so unfortunately I can't measure, it shouldn't have a problem fitting into a corsair 400r right? Seems like a rather large case.
post #14 of 17
Will there ever be a final answer to this Vram stuff? I got told yesterday 1gb/1.3gb on that TF3 570 will be fine for 1080 or 1200p resolutions, but there are still other people saying at those resolutions you need more vram.
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So apparently my case can't fit the 6970 lol I'm going to go ahead and go with the 570, even its also about $27 cheaper for me.
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Yeah those 6970's are huge, the TF3 570 is 238mm long which is pretty good. Think I'm going to buy it as well but I'm just hoping the vram amount won't become an issue.
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Will there ever be a final answer to this Vram stuff? I got told yesterday 1gb/1.3gb on that TF3 570 will be fine for 1080 or 1200p resolutions, but there are still other people saying at those resolutions you need more vram.
again vram in negligable. look at the comparisons above with metro(the ranking vram hog) which by the way @5760x1080 will still only use about 2.2gb vram. most card's vram is bottlenecked by the gpu. i have 2 580 3gbs and have never seen it push past 2gbs of usage @ 5760x1080. i honestly dont think my cards can utilize all 3gbs, and its a late end 580, probably the last of the 'new' reference 580s. 2 6870s trump most other higherend/pricey cards for less money. same goes for the 6850s which can easily be found for $100-150 each. combined thats less than the price of a single second rate high end card from either nvidia or ati. 460s w/768mb still beat a 6950 at 1080p w 2gbs. i have no doubt in my mind that i payed way too much for cards that bottleneck their own memory.

as far as eyefinity vs nvidia surround heres the only reasonable comparison that i was able to find.

not 570 vs 6970
but 560 titanium vs 6970 is pretty close

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/gra...-surround.html
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