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Depending on which SD card you get.

Class 2 -2 MB/s
Class 4 -4 MB/s
Class 6 -6 MB/s
Class 10 -10 MB/s

I've had many SD cards, and have yet to have one fail on me.

Once again, the iPhone's Flash Storage is no different than the flash storage found in SD Cards. Except of course the lack of flexibility and upgrade options that Apple takes away from you.

Imagine if you could buy an iPhone 5 16GB, and add your own 16 GB Class 10 card for $25 or a 32GB card for like $50. Not to mention for the $100 Apple charges you, you could get 2 32GB cards or 1 64GB card instead.

Apple would never allow this since they charge you $100 for an additional 16GB storage instead.

A lot of Android handsets on the other hand offer you this flexibility.

You see, some of us have valid reasons to dislike Apple's business practices.
Whilst I can understand why some would want this, I don't
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I'm interested to see the performance increase of the new iPhone 4s over the ordinary 4, although I do agree that a 64gb version could be awful useful.
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Anyone saying that Apple won't add MicroSD support due to reliability issues is kidding themselves. Apple could quite easily offer the iPhone exactly as is (so 16gb, 32gb, etc) and also have a MicroSD slot, purely for storage. Don't allow people to install applications onto it, so that way it will have no affect on performance or reliability. It's already (sort of) being done on Android.

The more likely reason Apple won't add MicroSD on their devices is because Apple don't make any MicroSD cards.
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Whilst I can understand why some would want this, I don't
Of course you don't, because you love Apple, and what Apple says goes.
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Whilst I can understand why some would want this, I don't
So you would prefer to have the memory limit be strict and unchangeable, and be forced to overpay for the memory, then to have the option to expand your memory to whatever size you would prefer and pay less while doing it?

I can see absolutely no reason why you would prefer the built-in memory option instead. Unless I'm missing something? EDIT: n/m, I forgot about the Apple logo in your profile.

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The more likely reason Apple won't add MicroSD on their devices is because Apple don't make any MicroSD cards.
Even if they did I don't think they would support it, they would require something proprietary instead. It would have to be a storage card in a new form factor or something. It'd be like putting FireWire on an iPod instead of USB (which they finally had to cave-in to due to PCs).
Edited by lordikon - 10/3/11 at 8:16pm
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Of course you don't, because you love Apple, and what Apple says goes.
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So you would prefer to have the memory limit be strict and unchangeable, and be forced to overpay for the memory, then to have the option to expand your memory to whatever size you would prefer and pay less while doing it?

I can see absolutely no reason why you would prefer the built-in memory option instead. Unless I'm missing something? EDIT: n/m, I forgot about the Apple logo in your profile.
No, I'm not ever going to use an SD card slot so why would I want it on the device? And, I do believe the built-in memory option is better. It's just simpler, I don't want my content to be separate to my main storage. I'd worry about losing it or having it stolen, or about it dying or getting damaged.

As I said, I can understand why some want it but it most definitely isn't for me. It never has been, and it probably never will be.

Leave my logo alone.
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the no-sd-card-slot argument probably boils down to this. Apple wants you to buy a higher capacity so they can make more money.
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Beat me to it. Apple won't give users SD support because that's an extra point of failure. I have to stick my apps on the SD card because my Desire only has 512mb of internal storage, which amounts to around 150mb after the system files. While this works, it causes issues when booting the phone or connecting it to a computer, since there is a delay in scanning the card. Apps become unresponsive or fail to load properly because they try and execute before the SD card is ready. If Apple gave users SD support they'd want to load their apps and media on it, which would be a nightmare, since Apple likes to hide the music away in a hidden, unaccessible folder on the device.


This design principle is behind every thing apple does, which is why iOS is primitive to the point of barely being a smartphone OS. It took years for Apple to implement cut and paste or allow the user to set his own background, and they still don't have widgets and limit users to just a single dimension on the homescreen (apps are arrayed in a 1d list rather than a 2d grid). But that's not to say Android's solution is better, since Android is complex and multifaceted to the point of harming the user.
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So you would prefer to have the memory limit be strict and unchangeable, and be forced to overpay for the memory, then to have the option to expand your memory to whatever size you would prefer and pay less while doing it?

I can see absolutely no reason why you would prefer the built-in memory option instead. Unless I'm missing something? EDIT: n/m, I forgot about the Apple logo in your profile.



Even if they did I don't think they would support it, they would require something proprietary instead. It would have to be a storage card in a new form factor or something. It'd be like putting FireWire on an iPod instead of USB (which they finally had to cave-in to due to PCs).
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No, I'm not ever going to use an SD card slot so why would I want it on the device? And, I do believe the built-in memory option is better. It's just simpler, I don't want my content to be separate to my main storage. I'd worry about losing it or having it stolen, or about it dying or getting damaged.

As I said, I can understand why some want it but it most definitely isn't for me. It never has been, and it probably never will be.

Leave my logo alone.
Are you serious? There's no reason not to offer it.

The sd card wouldn't be the phone's primary storage containing all of the "secure" data--as if that matters.

I think the most ideal compromise is to keep the internal phone storage models as-is, keep the apple/itunes file structure as is (yes, that implies requiring the oh-so-old method of itunes syncing) and offer an sd card slot for video media that the user imports, and simply allow the iphone's video player to look in the sd card's directory for videos. How hard is that? There's no reason not to have one. Any ideas of sd card reliability are overrated. What would it cost, maybe $1 to integrate?
    
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No, I'm not ever going to use an SD card slot so why would I want it on the device? And, I do believe the built-in memory option is better. It's just simpler, I don't want my content to be separate to my main storage. I'd worry about losing it or having it stolen, or about it dying or getting damaged.

As I said, I can understand why some want it but it most definitely isn't for me. It never has been, and it probably never will be.

Leave my logo alone.
You will do just about anything to prove a point and support Apple huh? Even as irrational as you sound.

I've had so many SD cards before. They've never failed on me, they've never been stolen, they've never been damaged. Ever have a digital camera?

If you're that paranoid.

You could make backups of everything by transferring the data from the SD card onto your computer, so if your SD card ever gets lost, damaged, or stolen ( which means your phone also got stolen ) you could easily restore the data. Or, you think someone is going to grab your phone, pull out the SD card, and leave the phone behind?

Losing the card? That means you'd take out the card from your phone and leave it somewhere, once it's installed it's as if it was "internal". You're not going to be removing it unless YOU choose to.

Dying or getting damaged? Once it's installed, it's installed. The likelihood of it dying or getting damaged is the same likelihood as the internal memory dying or getting damaged. Remember, they are the same, except one gives you the freedom to upgrade and add more storage, while the other doesn't. You prefer the one that doesn't give you freedom.

Enjoy your Apple juice it is robbing you of any logic. All your post proved is how devoted you are to Apple.
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The new notification thing being brought in iOS 5 is somewhat like a widget . I do agree with your statement as a whole, thought.
No. The new notification thing is more of a direct clone of a feature Android has been working on for 3 years.

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Whilst I can understand why some would want this, I don't
Just out of curiosity, how long do you think its going to take you(/did it take you) to load all of your music/videos/apps back onto your iPhone when you upgrade to iOS 5 since you need to wipe the internal storage after every upgrade?
    
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