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UPS tracking isnt active on my camera yet boooo. So it will be a surprise if i get it today.
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Well, what are we talking about here - do you want to learn about photography or computer post-processing / editing? My understanding is one can shoot mediocre photos and process them however they want, but they'll still stand out as processed mediocre photos. You solicited reading material to learn about photography; if someone asks about the fundamentals, I assume they want to learn how to see, not how to jazz up their shots in the computer. Plus, JPEG seems to work pretty well for me.
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Well, what are we talking about here - do you want to learn about photography or computer post-processing / editing? My understanding is one can shoot mediocre photos and process them however they want, but they'll still stand out as processed mediocre photos. You solicited reading material to learn about photography; if someone asks about the fundamentals, I assume they want to learn how to see, not how to jazz up their shots in the computer. Plus, JPEG seems to work pretty well for me.
Well my primary focus is to learn to take proper shots. However on a rainy day when I'm not going to be out shooting (at least until i learn to properly take care of my equipment in adverse conditions) I think it would be good to learn how to post process my photos as well.

I'm hoping for this to become my one true hobby. Video games are fun an all but I really get nothing out of it. I'm hoping to get a ton of satisfaction out of this as well as show off some work.
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Well, what are we talking about here - do you want to learn about photography or computer post-processing / editing? My understanding is one can shoot mediocre photos and process them however they want, but they'll still stand out as processed mediocre photos. You solicited reading material to learn about photography; if someone asks about the fundamentals, I assume they want to learn how to see, not how to jazz up their shots in the computer. Plus, JPEG seems to work pretty well for me.
But this is all with the assumption that one can only choose between mediocre shots with heavy post processing or great shots with no post processing, which is not the case.

Like bodies, lenses, lights, flashes, etc, post processing is a tool to enhance photos. It's definitely true that post cannot save a bad photo (if anything, IMO it'd just make it look worse), but post processing can also make a great photo better when done properly. Like the lenses and bodies discussed in this thread, post processing is not the most important part in photography, but it's still intrinsically a part of photography itself and not some separate entity entirely. So to say,

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Since there's really no reason for many users to shoot RAW....
is dismissive of a good tool to have in the photographer's skillset.

So just because JPEG works well for you doesn't mean that there is "no reason" for others. And truth be told if you're shooting JPEG, you're also post processing your photos; only difference is you're allowing your camera to do so automatically.
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That's a good point - I've never thought of it that way. All I know is some people feel overwhelmed and discouraged with the prospect of both RAW and JPEG coming out of their camera and loading up HDD space, thinking they need to process their shots and translate them to something else before they can enjoy their efforts. Those people should know they can get perfect pictures shooting JPEG and using in-camera color and WB settings.
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That's a good point - I've never thought of it that way. All I know is some people feel overwhelmed and discouraged with the prospect of both RAW and JPEG coming out of their camera and loading up HDD space, thinking they need to process their shots and translate them to something else before they can enjoy their efforts. Those people should know they can get perfect pictures shooting JPEG and using in-camera color and WB settings.
Now this I definitely agree with
post #17 of 30
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Well, what are we talking about here - do you want to learn about photography or computer post-processing / editing? My understanding is one can shoot mediocre photos and process them however they want, but they'll still stand out as processed mediocre photos.
Editing RAW files is akin to working in a darkroom on film -- rarely will you pull a gem straight out of the camera. If you decide to shoot JPG, you're cheating yourself out of perfecting an image.
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UPS has failed me today . Tomorrow shall be the day. Until then........
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Good to hear its addictive. I got a combo that came with a 4gb card, how many pics do you think that can hold. Should i get another one right away?
I have a 32GB card and shoot jpeg ... let's just say I couldn't imagine shooting without a 32gb card.

If you're a beginner, shoot jpeg, because RAW will consume a lot of your time, too much for when you're first learning I'd say.
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I have a 32GB card and shoot jpeg ... let's just say I couldn't imagine shooting without a 32gb card.
What are you shooting that you need that much space for jpeg? That's an insane amount of space.
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