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Originally Posted by Mawbster;15166237 
Out of intrest can you overclock a 500mhz amd processor easily? I just found one. Might be worth blowing up.

Try it, film it, then post the video here?
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Originally Posted by E-Peen;15165989 
As long as a CPU has an unlocked multiplier, it can technically be overclocked.

Untrue, he said he was dealing with AMD also. AMD (unlike intel) has made it so you can use the FSB OR multi to OC, multi and FSB only avaliable with black edition procs, and FSB is avaliable for both.

Happy OCing.
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Originally Posted by supercow;15166248 
i know it sounds dumb, but i was really wondering if i could crank a celeron g540 up to 3ghz?, seems too high so ill ask you guys if it can be done...

No, you'd be looking at around 2.63-2.67GHz at most out of that, assuming you can even reach 105-107MHz BCLK.

Unfortunately 1155's BCLK is really tied down. I can't even POST past 105.5MHz on mine.

Honestly, those extremely cheap Sandy Bridge chips are really only good for a budget setup, to step into a K series chip later (or a server / HTPC build).

If you want a better performing CPU, you'll need the i3 2100 with a P67 / Z68 board. That chip would do around 3.25GHz or so, and it'll beat the AMD quads at 4GHz in gaming.

Plus you'd be set for a 2500k later if you wanted (or the next gen chips).

Or you can also step into a cheap AMD build...but the i3 2100 is a far superior chip honestly.
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud;15166299 
No, you'd be looking at around 2.63-2.67GHz at most out of that, assuming you can even reach 105-107MHz BCLK.

Unfortunately 1155's BCLK is really tied down. I can't even POST past 105.5MHz on mine.

Honestly, those extremely cheap Sandy Bridge chips are really only good for a budget setup, to step into a K series chip later (or a server / HTPC build).

If you want a better performing CPU, you'll need the i3 2100 with a P67 / Z68 board. That chip would do around 3.25GHz or so, and it'll beat the AMD quads at 4GHz in gaming.

Plus you'd be set for a 2500k later if you wanted (or the next gen chips).

Or you can also step into a cheap AMD build...but the i3 2100 is a far superior chip honestly.

All true except for the I3 2100 part.

Get this instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222

Im not sure but i THINK it has a normal FSB since its LGA 1156, so you can OC it much higher with that. And 1156 boards are more reasnoably priced.
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ok, so thats not gonna work. with your performance with the i3, would the a6 3650 be on par with those cpus with an overclock, i have seen good numbers from those, and the graphics are a big plus
    
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Anything except for a laptop should be overclockable.
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Originally Posted by Smoblikat;15166340 
All true except for the I3 2100 part.

Get this instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222

Im not sure but i THINK it has a normal FSB since its LGA 1156, so you can OC it much higher with that. And 1156 boards are more reasnoably priced.

Very true, the last generation i3's are beast too. They'll do 4GHz+ typically. smile.gif
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ok, so thats not gonna work. with your performance with the i3, would the a6 3650 be on par with those cpus with an overclock, i have seen good numbers from those, and the graphics are a big plus

The i3 2100 (or any i3) is still a superior CPU. The A6 3650 is basically an Athlon II x4, but it has a great onboard graphics chip. Those particular chips are GREAT for budget gaming without a dedicated graphics card.

If you can't fit even a GTS450 / HD6670 into your build along with the i3 setup, then yeah, go for the AMD setup with onchip graphics. It'll be better for gaming than onboard Intel by far.

Nothing really "wrong" with either setup. The Intel architecture (even the older 1156 / 1366) is VASTLY superior to AMD's architecture right now (no word yet on Bulldozer for sure). So CPU wise, Intel would be the way to go "right now". But if you need onboard graphics too, and want to game on it, then AMD would be the way to go, same thing if you're on a tighter budget and can't afford Intel.
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post #18 of 34
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Originally Posted by Smoblikat;15166340 
All true except for the I3 2100 part.

Get this instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222

Im not sure but i THINK it has a normal FSB since its LGA 1156, so you can OC it much higher with that. And 1156 boards are more reasnoably priced.
You'd be stuck with a dead socket and the i3-2100 is plenty fast without overclock, as evidence by it beating every AMD chip in games. Plus you should factor in the cost of an aftermarket cooler. For that extra $30-40 you could get a SB i5.
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ok, so thats not gonna work. with your performance with the i3, would the a6 3650 be on par with those cpus with an overclock, i have seen good numbers from those, and the graphics are a big plus
The Fusion chips are attractive for the GPU part because they can match some low-end dedicated video cards in performance. Their CPU performance isn't even comparable to SB; the i3 destroys the A8.
    
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well, i was asking all of this because i was looking to do budget gaming, i have rigged up a system i know will be good enough for gaming for 478 bucks with windows so i should be good to go, and if i have to ill dual up a 6670 later on with the a6
    
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well, i was asking all of this because i was looking to do budget gaming, i have rigged up a system i know will be good enough for gaming for 478 bucks with windows so i should be good to go, and if i have to ill dual up a 6670 later on with the a6
It would be a waste of money getting an A6 with the intention of using a dedicated video card.

While the Fusion chips are decent performers in 3D games, they're still pretty slow even when compared to a low-end multimedia/gaming card, the HD 5770.

I wouldn't seriously consider them; save like $50 and buy an i3-2100 + H61/67 and HD 6850/GTX 460.
    
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