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So what's the latest news with F@H? Now that ambient temperatures are cooling down a bit, I'm going to start folding again. I'll be running the sig rig nearly 24/7 and maybe a couple of extra GTS450.

What's the best client to run for the i7 970? How about the GPU?

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If you want the most PPD, you should use the SMP client with the -bigadv flag in Linux (either native or VM). You can also run the same client with Windows, but you'll get much less PPD.

About the GPUs, it's a tradeoff. Overall you'll probably get a bit more PPD, at the cost of reducing your CPU PPD somewhat and significantly increasing your power draw.
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rurushu is right, folding in Linux with a hexa puts you in line to receive what we're now calling hugeadvs. They are the 6903 and 6904 work units, and with your hexa folding on all 12 threads at 4.25Ghz, you should be able to pull down 85-88k ppd with them. I'd be careful with the gpu folding. Try it out and see how it impacts you're ppd, but you may find straight CPU folding might give you better ppd (unless you are GPU folding in a different rig).
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^^ what these guys said.

And if the extra heat and power draw doesn't concern you, the new -advmethods WU for Fermi use very little CPU time so it shouldn't impact SMP folding as much, they are alot bigger and runs the cards hotter but with a strong enough card (470 and up I believe) you should see a slight increase, if GPU PPD drop a couple 100s or even 1k the PPD increase on SMP might cancel it out.

I gain 1k on a 560Ti (980Mhz) and drop ~200PPD on a 460 (880MHz), a 470 should be closer to 560Ti. Every system is different tho and other usage impact things too.
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If you want the most PPD, you should use the SMP client with the -bigadv flag in Linux (either native or VM). You can also run the same client with Windows, but you'll get much less PPD.

About the GPUs, it's a tradeoff. Overall you'll probably get a bit more PPD, at the cost of reducing your CPU PPD somewhat and significantly increasing your power draw.
Can you recommend a distro that will run alongside Windows? I've got extra hard drives that I can install for dual boot, but I'm not too savvy on Linux.

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Originally Posted by sstnt View Post
rurushu is right, folding in Linux with a hexa puts you in line to receive what we're now calling hugeadvs. They are the 6903 and 6904 work units, and with your hexa folding on all 12 threads at 4.25Ghz, you should be able to pull down 85-88k ppd with them. I'd be careful with the gpu folding. Try it out and see how it impacts you're ppd, but you may find straight CPU folding might give you better ppd (unless you are GPU folding in a different rig).
I recall reading something a while back from Stanford that basically said that they don't want any -bigadv folding on anything other than 'true' 8-core and higher processors. What's the latest with that?

As for GPU folding, I'd like to at least establish a baseline with just the 970 first. I've got two GTS450 in two other systems in addition to the GTX470 and GTS450 that I've got in the sig rig. I may add them to the mix later on, but not right now.

Thanks to you all for your help!
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This guide:
http://www.overclock.net/overclock-n...adv-p6903.html

You can follow the instructions to get the VM set up all the way through until you get to the corehack. Since you're a bit rusty, I'd try and do normal -bigadv WUs for a bit until you're sure your OC is fine for Folding. Then worry about trying -hugeadv.

The benefit of the VM is you can then use your GPUs too, and see which combination is best. If it ends up that CPU only on -hugeadv is easy for your system, and gives the best PPD, then you can go native.
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Can you recommend a distro that will run alongside Windows? I've got extra hard drives that I can install for dual boot, but I'm not too savvy on Linux.



I recall reading something a while back from Stanford that basically said that they don't want any -bigadv folding on anything other than 'true' 8-core and higher processors. What's the latest with that?

As for GPU folding, I'd like to at least establish a baseline with just the 970 first. I've got two GTS450 in two other systems in addition to the GTX470 and GTS450 that I've got in the sig rig. I may add them to the mix later on, but not right now.

Thanks to you all for your help!
That's what they may SAY...but I'm still getting hugeadvs on my 980x running at 4.325Ghz. As long as you're on linux, set up right, and have at least 12 threads, you're may get hugeadvs. There's quite a few quad cores (mostly 2600ks) that are doing hugeadvs. Not a problem IF you have a high enough overclock to make the deadlines....especially for the 6904.

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Originally Posted by zodac View Post
This guide:
http://www.overclock.net/overclock-n...adv-p6903.html

You can follow the instructions to get the VM set up all the way through until you get to the corehack. Since you're a bit rusty, I'd try and do normal -bigadv WUs for a bit until you're sure your OC is fine for Folding. Then worry about trying -hugeadv.

The benefit of the VM is you can then use your GPUs too, and see which combination is best. If it ends up that CPU only on -hugeadv is easy for your system, and gives the best PPD, then you can go native.
Yep, you can disregard the corehack, it's just for the quadcores (8 threads) that are trying to get hugeadvs.
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Originally Posted by zodac View Post
This guide:
http://www.overclock.net/overclock-n...adv-p6903.html

You can follow the instructions to get the VM set up all the way through until you get to the corehack. Since you're a bit rusty, I'd try and do normal -bigadv WUs for a bit until you're sure your OC is fine for Folding. Then worry about trying -hugeadv.

The benefit of the VM is you can then use your GPUs too, and see which combination is best. If it ends up that CPU only on -hugeadv is easy for your system, and gives the best PPD, then you can go native.
I agree with Z, i have the SMP and GPU clients both running on native linux. The GPU install on Linux takes some serious patients and trial and error if not perfect the first time around.
The difference from native to VM box is less then 10% (for me). Might be more for -bigadv.
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Good information. Thanks to all.

My plan is to let the Windows SMP client to run for about a week or so - we're three days into it now - and then switch to Linux and see how it does with -bigadv. Maybe eventually I'll try the -hugeadv work units, but that depends on a lot of things, not least of which my electricity bill.

I'll keep the sig rig GPU silent for now and switch on the the extra two GTS450 when it gets chilly enough to beneift from the extra heat. Before you say anything, I know that it's woefully inefficient, but at least I get something from the money spent. I suppose I should upgrade the PSU in my server though...that non-80 Plus 750 can easily be swapped for a 400-500 watt gold or platinum PSU.

Any advice on which distro to run for the sig rig?
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Almost anything would work, but most guides are written for Ubuntu 10.10, so I'd recommend that.
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