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So because a dogmatic and bad theory doesn't agree with a observation, the observation is wrong ? Umm, i guess the earth is flat to.
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I love it when humans think they know everything and when they can't explain it they just disregard it . How many times in history have humans thought they had the answer only to be proven wrong in the future?
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Exactly. I want to see the test actually repeated by someone else.
Fermilabs is hoping to repeat this within 6 months. They were the first to actually have data showing FTL neutrino's in 2007, but at the time it was within the margin of error.

They're now upgrading their equipment so they can reduce margin of error to confirm CERN's results.
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Hey, we discovered something that may challenge accepted theory. Check this for me.
Nope, it breaks another accepted theory.
Case closed.
This. Most theories used tie in together in some way. If you experience a phenomenon that you believe doesn't abide to a theory, using another theory to disprove it isn't acceptable.
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Fermilabs is hoping to repeat this within 6 months. They were the first to actually have data showing FTL neutrino's in 2007, but at the time it was within the margin of error.

They're now upgrading their equipment so they can reduce margin of error to confirm CERN's results.
I was under the impression that the Teavtron at Fermi lab was shutting down, hence they could not run a comparative test.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...dbye-tevatron/
    
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funny how its just totally written off. What terrible scientists, its a disgrace writing off results because they don't co-inside with widely accepted theory. DEAL WITH IT
    
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funny how its just totally written off. What terrible scientists, its a disgrace writing off results because they don't co-inside with widely accepted theory. DEAL WITH IT
if only things were as simple as a layman can put it
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if only things were as simple as a layman can put it
People have a great capacity to convey information abstractly. Scientists are just not typically imaginative people when it comes to communication.

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Most of the fundamental ideas of science are essentially simple, and may, as a rule, be expressed in a language comprehensible to everyone.
I know nothing about astrophysics or exotic particles is essentially simple, but maybe that is because we've yet to really wrap out heads around them.
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I was under the impression that the Teavtron at Fermi lab was shutting down, hence they could not run a comparative test.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...dbye-tevatron/
the Tevatron is for particle collisions, in this case you're not colliding particles, but rather shooting a neutrino beam at a target. Hence, no tevatron needed
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People have a great capacity to convey information abstractly. Scientists are just not typically imaginative people when it comes to communication.
they should have got neil de grasse tyson or bill nye to talk to us about this in babby speak
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I know nothing about astrophysics or exotic particles is essentially simple, but maybe that is because we've yet to really wrap out heads around them.
well i don't know if that stuff is really fundamental or basic. i can't imagine trying to tell my grandma how to imagine 11 dimensions or how gravity bends space-time
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