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Originally Posted by chemicalfan;15258980 
don't hang around for long either.
Really? I'm pretty sure there's still plenty around from the dawn of time.
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Originally Posted by cl04k3d;15258755 
I want to know what is at the end of the universe. Sadly I will never know the answer to this. Even if we were able to travel at the speed of light. What if there was no end?

At the speed of light, it would take us about 30,000 years to leave the Milky Way alone. A human would have to travel about 30,000 times faster than the speed of light to make the trip worth it, and even then it would take an entire year. I'm not sure if the Amonatuser is still the fastest spaceship ever, but it would take about 36 million years to leave the Milky Way at 547,000mph, just to give you an idea. tongue.gif

My prediction is humans will never physically be able to make it that far out into the universe. I'd say we'll be extinct by the time our technology even gets close to allowing us to live on another planet. I'd LOVE to see it happen, but it more than likely won't happen within our lifetimes here. Last night I was watching the Nostradamus Effect, interesting show.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 10/11/11 at 6:04am
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I meant in terms of nature, not the unusual high-energy stuff. Sorry, you are correct in that they are created in high-energy conditions like the Big Bang, but they don't really interact with anything in the normal way, and their mass is so tiny that they don't really represent anything significant in terms of "bigger than quantum" physics. What I meant was, although it might uncover a new set of physics for neutrinos (they already have some, with the flavor oscillations), I think relativity for other particles will be protected, as the behaviour seen places neutrinos outside of normal physics. Of course, there will be an interface, as they are produces through weak interaction, but that's an explanation that we'll have to wait for in the future smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros;15259469 
but it would take about 36 million years to leave the Milky Way at 547,000mph, just to give you an idea.

And there are estimated to be hundreds of billions of Galaxies bigeyedsmiley.png

Computer model of a local group like ours forming from big bang

r1c1_50_10.gif

http://cosmicweb.uchicago.edu/

Thinking about the scale of the universe makes going back to typing documents in MS Word and checking my email particularly mundane. Wandering OT now, time to get back to work ;p
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Light is like the salt on the sea....the sea being dark matter.

Thoughts?
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Even if we could travel beyond the space of light, we'd still have to catch up with the universe's expansion. Due to that, light of galaxies that are expanding away from us in fact will never ever reach us. Hence we have the term "Visible" universe and that's not only visible light, but x-rays, infrared, the whole spectrum. The invisible universe is moving away from us faster than its light goes towards us.
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Even if we could travel beyond the space of light, we'd still have to catch up with the universe's expansion. Due to that, light of galaxies that are expanding away from us in fact will never ever reach us. Hence we have the term "Visible" universe and that's not only visible light, but x-rays, infrared, the whole spectrum. The invisible universe is moving away from us faster than its light goes towards us.

So you're saying that their gravity prevents the light from escaping that universe and heading this way? Wouldn't it just have a massive red shift and still move towards us @ c?
 
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So you're saying that their gravity prevents the light from escaping that universe and heading this way? Wouldn't it just have a massive red shift and still move towards us @ c?

The only thing I know of with that much gravity would be a singularity, or black hole.
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Even if we could travel beyond the space of light, we'd still have to catch up with the universe's expansion. Due to that, light of galaxies that are expanding away from us in fact will never ever reach us. Hence we have the term "Visible" universe and that's not only visible light, but x-rays, infrared, the whole spectrum. The invisible universe is moving away from us faster than its light goes towards us.

The further you look out, the faster things seem to be expanding away from us. But isn't that just because the further you look out, the older the light is? We would be seeing the red shift of these distant objects from much earlier in the universe's life, when it was expanding more rapidly.
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Personally I think that speed for modern people is a technoligical brick wall in terms of ability to travel to places. I think that we haven't even touched what technology is capable of. I think that in the future people will look back and laugh at us people that thought that it would take millions of years to leave the milky way. They will probably have the technology to bend space and travel nearly instantaneously to any wheres in the universe.

Speed will probably be looked upon as the long.....long way to travel to places as there are ways to travel to places (in theory) besides going really fast such as bending space. I think that humans will eventually come in contact with lots of other intelligent beings too and that it will spark a revolution in history.
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Speed will probably be looked upon as the long.....long way to travel to places as there are ways to travel to places (in theory) besides going really fast such as bending space. I think that humans will eventually come in contact with lots of other intelligent beings too and that it will spark a revolution in history.

The Borg.


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