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Originally Posted by ImmortalKenny View Post
You and a million other people in this thread have their heads so wrapped around numbers and specs that it's not even funny.

Numbers don't mean anything. It's how the OS is programmed and properly optimized for its hardware that makes the difference.
Not any more, phones are fast enough to brute force it no matter what, I'm yet to see a single stutter on my SGS2 and I run what is (Apparently, although the only phone that suggests so is my old as hell HTC Dream, which is close to an iPhone 3G, which also lags on newer iOS versions) the laggiest and crappiest OS from a optimization standpoint.

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Originally Posted by jam3s View Post
I find iOS smooth and a pleasant experience, after owning a 3G, 3GS, and iPhone 4.
While I will easily agree Android needs hardware acceleration to help with the smoothness on older/budget phones, for the SGS2 and HTC Desire at least, the hardware is fast enough to run the software more than adequately, as for pleasant..Well, I'm yet to meet any Android owners who say it isn't good, pleasant, etc.

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Originally Posted by raclimja View Post
for games, probably the good ones you can get is like angry birds

where on the iphone you can get REAL games such as GTA,etc...
Have you ever gone through the markets game section to look? If you've only got Angry Birds...

Blockworld, Star Blitz, Endless Flight, aDOSBox (Ie. Any of the great DOS games), Stair Dismount, Dragon, Fly!, Fruit Slice, Robo Defence and SNES 9x EX are the games I have on my phone and I tend not to install many games because I prefer to game on my PC...There are more.

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Originally Posted by Foolsmasher View Post
Why can't you just accept that some people want something different than what you want?

Answer me that.
That's easy to understand, way to dodge the question though, why can't the Apple guys who post about user experience understand that, either? It's a purely personal thing.

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Originally Posted by raclimja View Post
i personally own a Motorola Milestone and Samsung Galaxy SII

*Iphone 4 has better build quality
*buttery smooth overall Experience
*better selection of games and apps
*better battery life when doing real stuff
*better os(i mean the camera software, video editing, messaging, video calling, very responsive, no bloat crap that would kill you battery life, etc..)
  • No, it doesn't. I use an SGS2 every day and iPhone4 at least once a week, a good design with plastic > average design with glass/aluminium.
  • So does the SGS2...Even on the stock ROM it was as smooth as you can possibly get, never seen any lag.
  • Actually look at the market.
  • What's real stuff constitute? My SGS2 gets great battery life too.
  • No, no, no, no, I got a tiny bit of bloat on my SGS2, but kills battery life? We're not on Android 1.6 anymore.
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Originally Posted by doingitforthekill View Post
I agree completely. I have played with almost every popular android phone, and none of them have even come close to beating iOS at anything. The interface is buttery smooth, compared to the jerky android menus, there are TONS of more apps, the battery life is better doing almost everything from browsing the internet and listening to music, to playing 3D intensive games. +1
Jerky Android menus? Seriously? Stop looking at the HTC Wildfire and expecting it to be as smooth as an iPhone, because that and the HTC Dream are the only laggy Android phones I've ever seen.

Tons more apps, sure. But how much use are the extra ones? Apart from games, I doubt there's anything that iOS has that Android doesn't. I've done this before too...Proven it and everything. (Get an iOS owner to post random apps, I find equivalent in Android market)
Battery life is great on my SGS2, I get a full days charge browsing the internet...And for music, I can have music on while I ride to TAFE (~30 minutes) and not see a single % drop on my battery.

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Originally Posted by ForumViewer View Post
Thankfully the amount of RAM in any iDevice is almost irrelevant. It's hard to believe the iPad 2 only has 512MB. That's what optimized software does for you...far more with less.
I think it's more because mobile apps in general are lightweight, I have over 600MB RAM free unless I'm leaving heaps of stuff open for slightly faster load times.

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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post
I also noticed that too. With iPhone 4 i get ~ 320MB free RAM which is plenty. With Transformer which has 1GB i get about 420MB free RAM. I had about 540MB with 1GB from Atrix so iOS uses far less memory.
Android uses the RAM as you have it, iOS isn't any less or more memory efficient (That has been proven, anyway), example, I get ~200MB free average on my SGS2, but if I force close all my applications I can get over 800MB free.

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Originally Posted by flamingoyster View Post
I can't wait to see Android devices that are fluid. It'll be a completely different experience. The Atrix is the latest Android phone I've toyed with, and even with its dual core processor it still lagged a bit sliding between screens. Hardware acceleration will take care of that and it'll be really fun to see the improvements.
That'd be more because of Motorola's crappy programming than anything, the HTC Desire my mum has is fluid enough, my SGS2 is buttery smooth.

That said, I can't wait for hardware acceleration either, more efficient use of hardware ftw!

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Originally Posted by flamingoyster View Post
Why do you want to carry around lossless music if the bottleneck on a phone is the hardware, not the codec? Unless you have some kind of dedicated mobile amp? (sound quality bottleneck not performance bottleneck, naturally)
I can pick the difference between FLAC and ogg on my SGS2, but the size is way too big for me.

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Originally Posted by kenolak View Post
IF THEY EVER STARTED CODING THINGS THE WAY THEY DID 10 YEARS AGO THEY COULD AND WOULD EASILY BLOW PEOPLE OUT OF THE WATER WITHOUT SUING THEM +++ Caps.

But, They don't, and won't. As will no company.
It's almost sad to see things as cookie cutter these days. As that is what it appears to me as.(opinion ....)
I agree, it's a shame in a way, we have ultra fast and sleek hardware but the code is extremely inefficient simply because we can keep up due to hardware speed.

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Originally Posted by ImmortalKenny View Post
It might have changed from when I had my HTC Hero. On its first boot, there were a million apps running like a Nascar app, TV app, some radio app, etc. etc. Not to mention some launchers take up a lot of battery life too.
First boot, yeah, same thing.

Second boot, none ran automatically.

The iPhone 4S is a good phone, anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves..But still, usually Apple beat the phones at the forefront of the market, now they're barely matching bar one area, which they destroyed all in.
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Originally Posted by S0ULphIRE View Post
Always amuses me how people crap on about which phone is thinner. I remember using my Nokia 6120 classic (I think that's right?), that thing was as thick as two SII's or two ip4's put together but I was perfectly happy with it size-wise. One uber-thin phone being A FEW MILLIMETERS thicker/thinner than another uber-thin phone does not matter in the slightest for me.
Tell that to hellonwheelz, he's the one making a big deal about it, and claiming the iPhone 4 is the thinnest Smartphone EVAR!

I'm using a Blackberry now until I see what my upgrade options are in a couple months.

I may still use my Hardware Upgrade towards the iPhone 4S if the Nexus Prime doesn't come to Rogers.
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Which I will then sell to buy the Nexus Prime.

Next Tuesday I'll know for sure though, if it lives up to the hype.

I'm disappointed an iPhone 5 didn't come out, I really was considering it as an option.

People are not going to see eye to eye on this, some prefer iPhones, some prefer the vast amount of choices and flexibility they have with Android phones.
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2010rig I'm putting you on ignore, because you can't seem to see context.

Someone said the ip4 with a case seems "so thick" actually thicker than a thunderbolt with an big battery and the thick back. As I said this makes zero sense.

This thread is a not supposed to be a pissing match that you are trying to turn every supposed advantage of the entire android phone base.

The ip4 was the the thinnest smartphone in 2010. It's still really thin compared to the current crop...

In the UK samsung is not allowed by law to say the gsii is the thinnest smartphone. ip4 is thinnest by uk law. I could really care less.

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So, let me get this straight, you choose to focus on the 5% part of phone that is slighty bulkier, vs the majority of the phone that is thinner.

Makes sense.

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2010rig I'm putting you on ignore, because you can't seem to see context.

Someone said the ip4 with a case seems "so thick" actually thicker than a thunderbolt with an big battery and the thick back. As I said this makes zero sense.

This thread is a not supposed to be a pissing match that you are trying to turn every supposed advantage of the entire android phone base.

The ip4 was the the thinnest smartphone in 2010. It's still really thin compared to the current crop...

In the UK samsung is not allowed by law to say the gsii is the thinnest smartphone. ip4 is thinnest by uk law. I could really care less.
Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment.

All I was showing was "perspective". To me the GS2 is thinner.

You said the iPhone 4 is the thinnest because the base of the GS2 is 0.61 mm thicker than the iPhone 4, and completely ignoring the fact that the majority of the GS2 is thinner than the iPhone 4. The GS2 is also lighter, but hey, who's keeping track anyway.

http://www.geeksyrup.com/tips/samsun...-4-comparison/
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Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment.

All I was showing was "perspective". To me the GS2 is thinner.

You said the iPhone 4 is the thinnest because the base of the GS2 is 0.61 mm thicker than the iPhone 4, and completely ignoring the fact that the majority of the GS2 is thinner than the iPhone 4.

http://www.geeksyrup.com/tips/samsun...-4-comparison/
I show my friends my sgs2 and they always say how thin and light it is compared to their ip4. imo having the everyday user hold the phone and use their powers of observation and senses to cast judgement is more useful than having UK law or some massive company's marketing division tell me what is technically/legally thinner.
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You said the iPhone 4 is the thinnest because the base of the GS2 is 0.61 mm thicker than the iPhone 4, and completely ignoring the fact that the majority of the GS2 is thinner than the iPhone 4. The GS2 is also lighter, but hey, who's keeping track anyway.
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I show my friends my sgs2 and they always say how thin and light it is compared to their ip4. imo having the everyday user hold the phone and use their powers of observation and senses to cast judgement is more useful than having UK law or some massive company's marketing division tell me what is technically/legally thinner.
I don't care about thinness anymore. I care more about comfort then anything.

I wish the SGS II was a bit thicker which in turn could give it a larger battery. Shouldn't go much thicker then the base however. They surely could have fit a 1800+whr battery in it though. Thin phones don't even feel nice in the hand. And heck, technically, people use cases that significantly extend your phones width anyways.
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Did anyone else see Infinity Blade 2 demo'd in the Keynote? It looked phenomenal!
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Did anyone else see Infinity Blade 2 demo'd in the Keynote? It looked phenomenal!
Running on a 3.5" screen, who cares?
My old on-board GPU could probably play Crysis on max on a 3.5" screen but who wants that?

Show me something more impressive
    
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