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It is not a service pack. Pretty much every app and feature that exists in Mac has been improved significantly. There's significant security improvements, and then you've got the other additions like Launchpad, system-wide gestures, Mission Control, and whatever else. Service packs fix bugs and security problems, that's about it.
Let's see, what makes up a service pack?
Apps and feature updates - check
Security improvements - check
A new free app or 2 - check
Costs nothing to download - Um, nope on both counts.

Yeah, I guess it's not a service pack, because service packs are free.
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post #122 of 143
Lion is a service pack that cost $30. Vista and Windows 7 are not. Both Vista and Windows 7 have had drastic kernel changes completely separating them from each other and from Windows XP.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osx#Ver...now_Leopard.22
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Originally Posted by allikat View Post
Let's see, what makes up a service pack?
Apps and feature updates - check
Security improvements - check
A new free app or 2 - check
Costs nothing to download - Um, nope on both counts.

Yeah, I guess it's not a service pack, because service packs are free.

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Originally Posted by ez12a View Post
SP1 doesnt give Windows 7 new features or tweaks. It's a security and bug patch pack. (look at Event Viewer and see all the previous patches it's installing).

Lion however, gives you added features (AirDrop, for some newer macbooks, Internet Restore, etc.). The point updates for OS X are not equivalent to service packs.

Here's "Notable changes" for Windows 7 SP1 summarized by MS themselves.

On the other hand, here are Lion's details/changes.

Service Packs are not Leopard/SL/Lion updates. You'd be ignorant to say otherwise. I would hope most if not all windows 7 users "adopted" SP1. It's definitely needed for secure computing.
From the horse's own mouth. Now please, stop comparing point updates to OSX to Service Packs. The majority of the content in Service Packs are already released patches simply rolled up into a convenient pack. If you dont believe Microsoft's own article, then watch your Event Viewer when installing a service pack. You'll see a slew of hotfixes and what not being installed.

For the lazy:
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Microsoft® continuously collects feedback on Windows® 7 and Windows Server® 2008 R2 operating systems from its customers and partners. This feedback results in enhancements that help improve compatibility, reliability, performance, and user experience. These enhancements are typically made available in the form of regular updates delivered via Windows Update and, in some cases, the Microsoft Download Center. All updates are then rolled-up, along with additional enhancements, into a single package called a Service Pack. By integrating these updates into a thoroughly tested single service pack, Microsoft aims to provide a single high-quality update that will minimize both deployment and testing complexity for customers.
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The impact of SP1 on the Windows 7 client operating system is considered to be minimal. Included changes address minor usability issues in specific scenarios, as outlined in this document.
so yes, please stop comparing and stating something that is blatantly false. It's almost laughable the kinds of things you're making up on the spot.
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post #124 of 143
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Let's see, what makes up a service pack?
Apps and feature updates - check
Security improvements - check
A new free app or 2 - check
Costs nothing to download - Um, nope on both counts.

Yeah, I guess it's not a service pack, because service packs are free.
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Lion is a service pack that cost $30. Vista and Windows 7 are not. Both Vista and Windows 7 have had drastic kernel changes completely separating them from each other and from Windows XP.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osx#Ver...now_Leopard.22
Sigh...

I'm getting so tired of all this misinformation. Go do your research and stop spouting rubbish, I've had enough of it. Lion is not a service pack. For the record, all the people hating on Apple said that Snow Leopard was a service pack and it had massive under-the-hood changes. You'll just say whatever you want to justify why Mac OS is only $30 for an unlimited license.

Apple has transitioned from 32-bit Leopard to 64-bit Snow Leopard, which allowed for big speed improvements as Apple re-wrote most of the stock apps as 64-bit apps. They also introduced new technologies like GCD, OpenCL, and other stuff. All in all, they boasted big speed improvements but this was just a base for Lion.

What is Lion supposed to do? Go to 128-bit? No. It's already very fast, and incredibly small (4-5GB). Apple's made some very significant changes to almost all of the apps on Lion, and introduced several new ones. And then you've got new features and functionality throughout the OS. It's also got iCloud support, and also security improvements that put it on par with, or likely even better for the time being as Windows 7 doesn't have application sandboxing yet.
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post #125 of 143
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I don't think so. The US is in a recession and I can't even afford a Macbook anyway. Overpriced when the components are the same as PCs. Lion is nice, but not many people have Apple computers.
exacto

apple chargin for service packs.....lawl. It aint new, along with the fact they do got a loyal customer base.
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post #126 of 143
How about compare sales? Or talk about how many lion OS sale you did in the last idk 2 week? because ALL the Apple sheep bought it at launch and there are no one else out there that will buy it now. And the majority of OSX users don't have a clue what they are buying.

When you have nothing good say about yourself, just make the other guy look bad.
post #127 of 143
Perhaps this is because previous versions of windows have been adequate for a lot of users and they feel no need to upgrade immediately, while the vast majority of mac users are uninformed drooling idiots who will throw their money at apple every time, as long as they get a few next to useless gimmicks in return.
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post #128 of 143
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Perhaps this is because previous versions of windows have been adequate for a lot of users and they feel no need to upgrade immediately, while the vast majority of mac users are uninformed drooling idiots who will throw their money at apple every time, as long as they get a few next to useless gimmicks in return.
Or... perhaps most Mac users just decided they wanted to upgrade for the new features. I've been using Lion for maybe a month or so now, and I notice the differences. It's very refined. Plus, it's $30 for all your Macs. Who wouldn't buy the next Mac OS for that?
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I think apple is just showing us how it will really be from now on. When jobs was canned in '85 apple slumped basically until he was brought back on. now they're slipping again and i dont think jobs will be returning any time soon to apple.
post #130 of 143
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Windows 7 is only moving slowly because XP still works perfectly for 95% of users. In my eyes the only real difference between what I can do with 7 vs XP is DX11.

That and mac customers have a tendency to buy whatever is the newest thing out from Apple.
So true.
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