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Hello,I'm new on overcloking,and i would like to ask you about it.
Today i upgraded ram to 2gb (was 1gb).And i would like to boost cpu.My computer model is acer aspire one zg8.
Who could tell me how i could overclock it?It is risky?What is max overclock for this?Other computer specifications bellow.

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01 - Operating System

0101 - Operating System : Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_qfe.101209-1646)
0102 - Language : English (Regional Setting: English)
0103 - BIOS : InsydeH2O Version v0.3206
0104 - Processor : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (2 CPUs)
0105 - Memory : 2036MB RAM
0107 - Page File : 475MB used, 2922MB available
0108 - Windows Dir : C:\WINDOWS
0109 - DirectX Version : DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
0110 - DX Setup Parameters : Not found
0114 - DxDiag Version : 5.03.2600.5512

02 - Processor

0201 - Caption : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz x2 ~1595MHz
0202 - CurrentClockSpeed : 1595MHz

03 - Video Adapter

0301 - Card Name : Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
0302 - Manufacturer : Intel Corporation
0303 - Chip Type : Intel(R) GMA 950
0304 - DAC Type : Internal
0305 - Device Key : Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27AE&SUBSYS_022C1025&REV_03
0306 - Display Memory : 224.0 MB
0307 - AdapterRAM : 224.00 MB
0308 - Current Mode : 1024 x 600 (32 bit) (60Hz)
0309 - Monitor Name : Plug and Play Monitor
0310 - Driver Name : igxprd32.dll
0311 - Driver Version : 6.14.0010.4926
0312 - Driver Language : English
0313 - DDI Version : 9 (or higher)
0315 - Driver Beta : False
0316 - Driver Debug : False
0317 - Driver Date : 2/15/2008 13:12:00
0318 - Driver Size : 57344
0319 - VDD : n/a
0320 - Mini VDD : igxpmp32.sys
0321 - Mini VDD Date : 2/15/2008 13:12:00
0322 - Mini VDD Size : 5854752
0323 - Device Identifier : {D7B78E66-64EE-11CF-AB60-2622A2C2CB35}
0324 - Vendor ID : 0x8086
0325 - Device ID : 0x27AE
0326 - SubSys ID : 0x022C1025
0327 - Revision ID : 0x0003
0334 - DDraw Status : Enabled
0335 - D3D Status : Enabled
0336 - AGP Status : Not Available
0337 - Notes : No problems found.
To test DirectDraw functionality, click the "Test DirectDraw" button above.
To test Direct3D functionality, click the "Test Direct3D" button above.

0338 - OpenGL : 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-0845)

04 - Memory

0401 - TotalMemory : 1.99 GB
0402 - FreeMemory : 1.33 GB
0403 - Pagefiletotal : 3.32 GB
0404 - Pagefilefree : 2.85 GB

0405 - BankLabel : CHAN A DIMM 1
0406 - Speed : 533 MHz
0407 - TotalWidth : 64 Bits
0408 - Capacity : 2.00 GB


06 - Motherboard

0601 - Model :
0602 - Manufacturer : Acer

07 - Sound Device

0701 - Description : Realtek HD Audio output
0702 - Default Sound Playback : True
0703 - Default Voice Playback : True
0704 - Hardware ID : HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0272&SUBSYS_1025022C&REV_1000
0705 - Manufacturer ID : 1
0706 - Product ID : 100
0707 - Type : WDM
0708 - Driver Name : RtkHDAud.sys
0709 - Driver Version : 5.10.0000.6438
0710 - Driver attributes : Final Retail
0711 - Date and Size : 8/16/2011 18:46:02
0713 - Driver Provider : Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
0714 - Min/Max Sample Rate : 5045650, 5045650
0715 - Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs : 5045650, 5045650
0716 - Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs : 5045650, 5045650
0717 - HW Memory : 5045658
0718 - Voice Management : False
0719 - EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src : False, False
0720 - I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src : False, False
0721 - Notes : To test DirectSound functionality, click the "Test DirectSound" button above.
No problems found.


08 - Hard Disk

0802 - MediaType : Fixedhard disk media
0803 - Size : 149.05 GB
0804 - InterfaceType : Serial ATA
0805 - Driver Date : 7-1-2001
0806 - Driver Version : 5.1.2535.0

0807 - Caption : C:\
0808 - Capacity : 58.59 GB
0809 - FreeSpace : 53.22 GB
0810 - DriveType : 3-Fixed
0811 - FileSystem : NTFS

0807 - Caption : E:\
0808 - Capacity : 90.45 GB
0809 - FreeSpace : 63.04 GB
0810 - DriveType : 3-Fixed
0811 - FileSystem : NTFS
post #2 of 42
First, welcome to OCN smile.gif

Well, the main reason laptops (and nettops) are not to be OC'd is because of insufficient cooling. These chips are meant to stand 100c temps, but laptop mfgs take those temps to heart and cut costs in cooling. My laptop is a prime example. When it had a measly T1350 (single core @ 1.86 GHz) it ran up to 80c. When i changed to a T2500 (dual core @ 2 GHz) the hottest i've seen it go is 90c, and i say seen because i've had thermal shutdowns a couple times. Plus, the higher the heat the lower the life of the chip will be. I have a HP netbook (for my dad), and it does not even have a fan intake, only exhaust, meaning it collects cold air from the gaps, gets warm going through all the computer, and then it reaches the processor, cooling it with air that is at least 10c hotter than ambient temp.

The main component in letting you OC is the motherboard. Sadly most, if not all, major PC manufacturers do block this ability from the computers to make you upgrade to another machine if you need more performance and to save a lot of money and headaches in warranty stuff. Add insufficient cooling to that, and you got it.

Atoms are not OCing worthy. The performance you'd get out of ~200 MHz extra will not be even noticeable for everyday tasks, and the extra heat would be no good. And the best way to increase overall performance is not worth it in any way: changing the regular hard disc for an SSD. Yes, you will get lightning-fast performance, but considering a 160 GB SSD is costing ~$250 and you can find that nettop for ~$300-$400...

If you're still keen on OCing, try SetFSB. I tried it once and it's a good software for light OC's, especially if you do not plan to increase volts. Only downside is that you must find either the model of the laptop, motherboard or the clock generator chip in order for it to work (you could ask around in google) and that for some modern stuff you ought to pay for the full thing, which is roughly $10.
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Thanks for helpping,but i have few more questions.
1.It's possible to boost CPU same as this http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/531021-highest-atom-overclock.html
Also could you give me direct to for SETFSB download for (Intel Atom N270) (Acer aspire one zg8)

2. Could you teach me something about working with OC.Thanks.

3. It's possible to OC Ram on my laptop?If yes ,how?

4. About battery i don't care ,because i always pluged in charger.
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Originally Posted by FatalaS;15176825 
Thanks for helpping,but i have few more questions.
1.It's possible to boost CPU same as this http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/531021-highest-atom-overclock.html
Also could you give me direct to for SETFSB download for (Intel Atom N270) (Acer aspire one zg8)

2. Could you teach me something about working with OC.Thanks.

3. It's possible to OC Ram on my laptop?If yes ,how?

4. About battery i don't care ,because i always pluged in charger.

1- It's possible to change your FSB, it will rise the temperature of your nettop and it will most likely won't be stable.*

2- Overclocking is for desktop with a good motherboard, since you over volt your cpu, you need a motherboard that can follow.

3- You can set your DDR3 at 2 speed without overclocking, 1066-1333.
Stock is suposed to be 1333 so you can't go higher.*

4-An overclocked laptop/nettop will indeed eat power. Having it plugged it a good idea.


Since its a nettop, you won't be able to change the voltage of the cpu, which means you could get maybe a few mhz out of it before it become unstable.



My verdict, such a low-end processor and given the small-form factor, it doesn't worth the try. Performances you'll gain will be minimal and risks are severe.



* Upping the FSB will also change your memory speed so watch out
post #6 of 42
Just FYI, this title makes it less likely for people to help you. Just stick with Intel Atom N270 Help. Also, don't bump your threads after 1 hour, usually we wait 24 hours here at OCN. No worries though, I see you're new and we all made these mistakes smile.gif Welcome to OCN!

As to your questions: I'm not sure about your specific laptop, but when I try to overclock laptops I usually break them, pin mod on M11x.... frown.gif

There is a chance though, people have been able to overclock their laptops, just make sure you know what you're doing, it's a lot harder than overclocking a desktop. wink.gif
    
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2.1 to 2.2ghz is safe max OC.. you can get a bit higher with extreme methods not suitable for daily use.

*Most will depend on your RAM's ability to run faster speeds.. as the increase in bus speed will also increase you RAM speeds around 300-500mhz [from stock FSB to ~2.1ghz cpu range]

I run an OC'd n280 in my HP mini for daily use.. great little laptop. If you can tighten up your memory timings and reduce system latency, you will be much happier with the responsiveness of the system, regardless of CPU speed.
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Originally Posted by CL3P20;15177633 
2.1 to 2.2ghz is safe max OC.. you can get a bit higher with extreme methods not suitable for daily use.

Safe max overclock and nettop/laptop doesn't work together.
It is doable.
I managed my first overclock at the age of 13.
The thing is that it's risky.

If you don't care about breaking your nettop, go ahead, try setFSB.
Honestly, the only reason I'd want a nettop is for browsing the internet and Word/Excel stuff. I don't see the reason to overclock at all.
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Originally Posted by FatalaS;15176825 
Thanks for helpping,but i have few more questions.
1.It's possible to boost CPU same as this http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/531021-highest-atom-overclock.html
Also could you give me direct to for SETFSB download for (Intel Atom N270) (Acer aspire one zg8)

2. Could you teach me something about working with OC.Thanks.

3. It's possible to OC Ram on my laptop?If yes ,how?

4. About battery i don't care ,because i always pluged in charger.

Have you been into BIOS yet? My guess is that your RAM settings are non-negotiable on the type of system you have. My guess is also that you're not going to be able to overclock that cpu at all. When you overclock the front side bus to raise the cpu clock/frequency, you would also be overclocking the RAM, depending on the memory divider that you use. When overclocking the CPU, you want to loosen timings on the RAM (make the numbers higher) and/or change the memory divider to get lower memory speeds. This helps you eliminate the RAM as a stopping point when trying to overclock. You can speed the RAM up later once you get a stable CPU overclock. However, I think all of this is moot because I'm guessing the BIOS is not going to be user configurable when it comes to changing clock frequencies for CPU or RAM. It depends on the model, but you can usually get to BIOS by hitting the delete key or the F1 key or other F keys while the splash screen is displayed. Sometimes, you have to repeatedly hit the key right after starting the computer to get it to go.

However, as the previous poster said, on an atom type system, overclocking is not worth the hassle or the possible repurcussions, even if possible at all. If this is your only PC, I would definitely advise against it, but it's your choice. If it is overclockable, back up important docs to DVDs or CDs first.
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Originally Posted by Abs.exe;15177698 
Safe max overclock and nettop/laptop doesn't work together.
It is doable.
I managed my first overclock at the age of 13.
The thing is that it's risky.

If you don't care about breaking your nettop, go ahead, try setFSB.
Honestly, the only reason I'd want a nettop is for browsing the internet and Word/Excel stuff. I don't see the reason to overclock at all.

setFSB wont brick your laptop.. as once it restarts there are no OC'd settings anymore... it is a safe way to OC and stress test as you go.

*BIOS OC - on the other hand is NOT safe to OC unless you already know your limits.. as there is NO safe way to reset your CMOS on a netbook/laptop..and you DO stand the risk of bricking it with crap settings.

@ abs- I wouldn't agree with all of your statement.. I have been running my OC'd netbook for over 2yrs now.. my n280 runs 194mhz FSB [1.94ghz] for daily use on stock voltages.. I can bench it at 204mhz FSB.. currently my RAM is the only thing holding me from obtaining a higher OC. And there IS great benfit in lowering the system latency, which is done very easily with FSB increases and RAM timing adjustments.
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