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post #11 of 42
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I really scare to lose my PC.So is there any way to overclock safe?Could you teach me how to OC from A to Z.In BIOS for this laptop it's impossible to upgrade ram,cpu.In my older pc 488mhz 160ram it was possible... (not laptop,just old something like 1990years pc,also i used it untill 2009 years...).Now on laptop today i bought ram upgrade for 40$ (2GB ram,DDR2,Kingstom).
Edited by FatalaS - 10/4/11 at 1:22pm
post #12 of 42
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Originally Posted by Abs.exe;15177698 
Safe max overclock and nettop/laptop doesn't work together.
It is doable.
I managed my first overclock at the age of 13.
The thing is that it's risky.

I hate to be the one to inform you, but...Cl3p20 has been an extreme oc'er for quite a while. Go look him up on HWBot, then determine whether you have the experience to be telling him what is, or isn't possible.

I'll make this easier on you, here smile.gif

http://hwbot.org/user/cl3p20#Achievements
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 10/4/11 at 1:30pm
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post #13 of 42
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Originally Posted by CL3P20;15177770 
setFSB wont brick your laptop.. as once it restarts there are no OC'd settings anymore... it is a safe way to OC and stress test as you go.

*BIOS OC - on the other hand is NOT safe to OC unless you already know your limits.. as there is NO safe way to reset your CMOS on a netbook/laptop..and you DO stand the risk of bricking it with crap settings.

@ abs- I wouldn't agree with all of your statement.. I have been running my OC'd netbook for over 2yrs now.. my n280 runs 194mhz FSB [1.94ghz] for daily use on stock voltages.. I can bench it at 204mhz FSB.. currently my RAM is the only thing holding me from obtaining a higher OC. And there IS great benfit in lowering the system latency, which is done very easily with FSB increases and RAM timing adjustments.

So I'm not the only nut job who OC'd an Atom.

I just doh.gif every time people blanket statement about OCing laptops. In this case though I really don't recommend it and that's just because it's really not worth it compared to doing something like getting an SSD or changing the OS to Linux.

If you want to OC it you're going to have to find out the PLL (clock generator) for you specific model and then use SetFSB. The heat levels will increase so I can't stress enough about how this isn't something recommended on any Atom system because of the limited fans/cooling. Unless you have good ambient temperatures.
     
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post #14 of 42
unfortunately no.. i cannot teach you. There are many guides on how to use SetFSB for your OC.. the rest is stress testing to see if your OC is stable.

*If you dont have another platform to OC on, I would not suggest "learning" on this netbook/laptop... it is a tedious platform to OC, and many without much experience have completely ruined there machines just trying to get another 10mhz out of them.
post #15 of 42
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I want to OC my laptop ,because i don't have pc for games,so i would like to play something new.I know about graphics card...,but flash games i think 'll run faster.
post #16 of 42
again.. I would try to reduce RAM latency and timings if possible first.. you will notice much more of an increase in performance with lower latency rather than higher CPU speed.

*CPU would still be waiting on RAM with all the internal latency in an Atom... this is partly why CPU speed increases only help tiny bit... the rest comes from lowering RAM latency so that CPU is not waiting on RAM for instructions.

-Use everest or Maxmem and run a latency test.... record your results... then try lowering timings in your BIOS or using MemSet 4.0 and re-run the test... you will see the difference in through-put speeds and the reduction in latency. If you can safely cut 10-15ns of latency for daily use.. you will notice the speed difference.
post #17 of 42
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Do you have any advices how to speed up computer speed,without Ocing.
I already using ccleaner,checking registry,deleting temp,defragmenting 10times perday,using only critical process like svchost,explorer,in win startup is only eset nod32,in visual and performance everything for performance only...It's possible to change CPU in laptop?Also how to reduce RAM latency?It's possible to buy something to make this pc run faster?As i said today i bought 2GB RAM,and i feel about 30% faster.Also i know OC'ing laptop won't make it lot faster ,but it can make 10% faster,and it 'll be enough for me.
post #18 of 42
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Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop;15177855 
I hate to be the one to inform you, but...Cl3p20 has been an extreme oc'er for quite a while. Go look him up on HWBot, then determine whether you have the experience to be telling him what is, or isn't possible.

I'll make this easier on you, here smile.gif

http://hwbot.org/user/cl3p20#Achievements

?!?
I never said anything was impossible.
In fact I even said it was doable.
All I said is : Nettop/laptop overclocking IS RISKY.

It's easy too.

One thing to add on top : The laptop is an Acer.
Looks like OP don't want to risk anything so my opinion is don't play with something you don't want to crap.

Now if a 99 years old guru tells you it's doable and you do it and you end up having to RMA your laptop, guru or not, you're screwed.
No offense here, as I previously said, and I'm probably not the only one saying that kind of stuff, do not overclock your laptop.
OP just look like he's lost in space and he needs a hint on overclocking, I don't think he should get into that kind of game with a laptop.

EDIT : Fatalas : Get an SSD. It will blast you away.(Talking about blast, it's not a 300mhz overclock that will blast you away... You won't see 25% more performance out of it. )
post #19 of 42
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unfortunately no.. i cannot teach you. There are many guides on how to use SetFSB for your OC.. the rest is stress testing to see if your OC is stable.

Could you give guides link?
post #20 of 42
I found some good info on this site.. granted its not the same laptop.. but its the methods that matter wink.gif

http://myhpmini.com/guides/hp-mini-311/
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