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Wait, I don't really understand what files are in the AppData and Program Data folders. Which files are there and how are they important?

AFAIK, the programs themselves aren't located in those directory, right?

If the AppData and Program Data folders are in an HDD, will programs installed in the OS still benefit from the SSD speeds?
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This guide is helpful for people trying to reduce writes to their SSD's and save some space for software and other data. It is especially helpful for people without TRIM, the anal retentive enthusiasts, and people in the technical field who can use this information in many different scenarios. This is the proper way to move the Users and Program Data Folders to a different Drive or Partition.
This will explain app data, which is pretty much the same as program data
http://www.blogtechnika.com/what-is-application-data-folder-in-windows-7
post #23 of 73
Thanks for the info.

What will happen if you decide to replace your HDD (secondary) drive to a better one in the future? Is this workaround still possible then?
post #24 of 73
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Originally Posted by kevindd992002;15208011 
Thanks for the info.

What will happen if you decide to replace your HDD (secondary) drive to a better one in the future? Is this workaround still possible then?

At first I thought that you would have to start all over. But then a simple copy-paste solution came to my mind tongue.gif Just make sure you copy all the hidden files as well and you need to make sure the new drive will be assigned the same drive letter.

Dunno, I might be all wrong. Someone confirm or reject what I just said tongue.gif
post #25 of 73
Hi

Looks like a good way to setup.

I used the other guide in the past . Seems ok . But your method works quicker and faster out the box.

Big thanks

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At first I thought that you would have to start all over. But then a simple copy-paste solution came to my mind tongue.gif Just make sure you copy all the hidden files as well and you need to make sure the new drive will be assigned the same drive letter.

Dunno, I might be all wrong. Someone confirm or reject what I just said tongue.gif

But the things is, won't transferring the AppData to a mechanical drive make programs depending on those files run slower compared to when you retain it in the SSD?
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But the things is, won't transferring the AppData to a mechanical drive make programs depending on those files run slower compared to when you retain it in the SSD?

Well, I assumed you will be using the guide in this thread since you asked here. So I assumed the AppData folder would already be on HDD anyway.

Don't know about slower. I would say "maybe" but I can't be sure. I personally have AppData on my secondary HDD, everything works very fast nevertheless.

But in theory, I am interested myself whether it's a bit slower that way. Any1?
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But the things is, won't transferring the AppData to a mechanical drive make programs depending on those files run slower compared to when you retain it in the SSD?

Yes, if you move your entire AppData/ProgramData folder structure over to a mechanical drive then all programs which frequenty make use of those folders will run slower. They must do since HDD access times are way lower than those for SSDs. How much you will notice that is a matter of debate. For example Firefox will have all its cache and session data on a mechanical drive and I clearly notice drive access as you navigate around with this type of setup.

Personally I would leave all these data structures on the SSD to enjoy the full speed benefit of the drive. Worrying about limiting the writes from these things is, in my view, overly excessive. These sort of guides were useful for the first generation of SSDs where it was really important to limit writes but SSDs have been way more durable and usable for generations now.

I can also see use for this setup in very specific situations, but for general use it's just throwing performance away.
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Yes, if you move your entire AppData/ProgramData folder structure over to a mechanical drive then all programs which frequenty make use of those folders will run slower. They must do since HDD access times are way lower than those for SSDs. How much you will notice that is a matter of debate. For example Firefox will have all its cache and session data on a mechanical drive and I clearly notice drive access as you navigate around with this type of setup.

Personally I would leave all these data structures on the SSD to enjoy the full speed benefit of the drive. Worrying about limiting the writes from these things is, in my view, overly excessive. These sort of guides were useful for the first generation of SSDs where it was really important to limit writes but SSDs have been way more durable and usable for generations now.

I can also see use for this setup in very specific situations, but for general use it's just throwing performance away.

This.
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Originally Posted by infected rat;15211085 
Yes, if you move your entire AppData/ProgramData folder structure over to a mechanical drive then all programs which frequenty make use of those folders will run slower. They must do since HDD access times are way lower than those for SSDs. How much you will notice that is a matter of debate. For example Firefox will have all its cache and session data on a mechanical drive and I clearly notice drive access as you navigate around with this type of setup.

Personally I would leave all these data structures on the SSD to enjoy the full speed benefit of the drive. Worrying about limiting the writes from these things is, in my view, overly excessive. These sort of guides were useful for the first generation of SSDs where it was really important to limit writes but SSDs have been way more durable and usable for generations now.

I can also see use for this setup in very specific situations, but for general use it's just throwing performance away.
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This.
More like this.
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Not having cache or temp files on your ssd will not affect your noticeable performance anyways. Most people periodically clear there cache and temp files anyways. The only thing it will affect are programs that extract their contents to the temp folder before installing. Also, just a reminder of the main reason I made this guide in the first place.
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