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My friend wants me to chose him some parts for a $450 - $550 build. He just wants the best gaming performance possible for this price.

Heres what i have so far.

ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151233 $16.99

CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042 $55.95 (after rebate)

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042 $44.99

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138324 $59.99

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125334 $119.99

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171039 $60.99

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231277 $27.99

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103808 $119.99




Any changes I should make?
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Get the i3-2100 + H61 for the same price as the CPU and motherboard you picked. The i3-2100 is much faster in games, consumes less power, and produces less heat.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157241

Either get the 300 Illusion or this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147153

more default fans than the regular Antec 300.

Save money and get this PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817815007

Excellent choice on the GPU, best price/performance ratio in the budget segment.
    
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Changes, lots of changes are needed. First of all 3+1 phase board + 125W proc = unadvisable. That is not a very good PSU at all (esp. for the price). Can get bigger HDD for price. Not a fan of the Antec 300 at all; compared to more recent choices such as the NZXT Source 210, the value is below par. An HD 6870 fits in this budget, along with a 1TB HDD, along with a much better case and PSU.

NEWCUSTOMER10 coupon - $10 off [Newegg]

$488 shipped
~$470 shipped after 2 weeks (Sapphire rebate with no-wait service)

For all intents and purposes, The Phenom II x4 and i3 are roughly equal in terms of gaming, certain platforms having the advantage in certain games but only those few certain games. This 760G board will provide for a better upgrade option, as you can drop an FX processor in (the FX processor releases in 1 week according to trustworthy retailer sources) and still be able to overclock it decently. Whereas on an H61 board, you will be limited to whatever is the stock speed of the CPU you buy.
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Changes, lots of changes are needed. First of all 3+1 phase board + 125W proc = unadvisable. That is not a very good PSU at all (esp. for the price). Can get bigger HDD for price. Not a fan of the Antec 300 at all; compared to more recent choices such as the NZXT Source 210, the value is below par. A GTX 460 1GB fits in this budget, along with a 1TB HDD, along with a much better case and PSU.
NEWCUSTOMER10 coupon - $10 off [Newegg]

$491 shipped

For all intents and purposes, The Phenom II x4 and i3 are roughly equal in terms of gaming, certain platforms having the advantage in certain games but only those few certain games. This 760G board will provide for a better upgrade option, as you can drop an FX processor in (the FX processor releases in 1 week according to trustworthy retailer sources) and still be able to overclock it decently. Whereas on an H61 board, you will be limited to whatever is the stock speed of the CPU you buy.
No, you keep trying to make the X4 out to the equal of the i3. It would take a X4 at 4.0ghz to equal that of the i3 in terms of performance, but it would consume a huge amount of power and produce much more excess heat.

Stop listening to this dude's terrible advice.

The mods with actual knowledge of the situation even state the i3 is clearly the superior choice to any Phenom II for gaming:
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No, you'd be looking at around 2.63-2.67GHz at most out of that, assuming you can even reach 105-107MHz BCLK.

Unfortunately 1155's BCLK is really tied down. I can't even POST past 105.5MHz on mine.

Honestly, those extremely cheap Sandy Bridge chips are really only good for a budget setup, to step into a K series chip later (or a server / HTPC build).

If you want a better performing CPU, you'll need the i3 2100 with a P67 / Z68 board. That chip would do around 3.25GHz or so, and it'll beat the AMD quads at 4GHz in gaming.

Plus you'd be set for a 2500k later if you wanted (or the next gen chips).

Or you can also step into a cheap AMD build...but the i3 2100 is a far superior chip honestly.
Source.

The GTX 460 you recommend is a terrible choice in comparison to what he already has, the 1GB version is not worth 25% more.
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pio's recommendation had nothing to do with price-performance. This person wants the best possible gaming performance for price; this is what I am giving him.

Revised, realized an HD 6870 will fit into this budget. Because an i3/LGA1155 based setup will place a minimum $20 premium over the x4-based setup, a GPU power sacrifice (which will translate into worse gaming performance) may be required to maintain budget. As the x4 and i3 are near-equal with often minimal difference in gaming and with little exception, this is not an ideal sacrifice at all, if you ask me, as the GPU will make a ton of a difference over the CPU. Similar will apply if the full $550 is used; there are also there are other parts to take into consideration such as PSU, case, fans, etc.
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He just wants the best gaming performance possible for this price.
A certain game in particular?
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^ Revised, realized an HD 6870 will fit into this budget. Because an i3 will place a minimum $20 premium over the x4-based setup, a GPU power sacrifice (which will translate into worse gaming performance) may be required to maintain budget. As the x4 and i3 are near-equal with often minimal difference in gaming and with little exception, this is not an ideal sacrifice at all, if you ask me, as the GPU will make a ton of a difference over the CPU. Similar will apply if the full $550 is used.
Did you not actually look at what I selected, it would cost the same.

He doesn't have to sacrifice anything, you're suggesting a setup that costs the same but performs significantly worse while sucking up more power and producing more heat. Fail.

You're not giving him the best price/performance recommendation, the i3-2100 is clearly superior to what you selected at the same price.
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A certain game in particular?
The i3 would be faster in all games.

If he really wants to get the best for his money for his friend, go with Intel.
    
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AM3+ combo:$162 shipped and $10 rebate on top

Drop the mobo to the AM3 ASRock 870 iCafe open box for $48 shipped and the gap widens. Great motherboard as well. Or the M68MT-S2P for similar cost.

Minimum-cost LGA1155 PC:$182 shipped, no rebate.

No way it costs the same.
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The i3 would be faster in all games.
Wrong.

Not only is the Phenom II X4 955 BE less expensive than the i3-2100 by $20, but thanks to an unlocked multiplier, will outperform it when overclocked.

Now, with a 125W TDP, you're going to need a good HSF; regardless, your statement is rooted in nothing more than conjecture and bias.
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OP, I suggest you look for deals instead of just buying full price on newegg, you might even be able to snag an i5 rig with that budget (~$500). If your friend wants best gaming performance, get the i3, if he wants a little less gaming performance and overclocking, get the 955.
    
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