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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...d,3032-14.html

Posting this simply to show the power consumption and heat of the Phenom vs i3. Definitely much more power consumption by the Phenom, but it doesn't necessarily translate into more heat. One thing to note if you look through the rest of the comparison, the setups use different graphics cards. The Phenom getting a 6870, vs the i3 getting a 6850. Which is why it performs better in games.

My vote still goes for whichever of these processor that you want/you can get for cheaper, and focus as much money on the GPU as you can, that is definitely what matters most for gaming.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...d,3032-14.html

Posting this simply to show the power consumption and heat of the Phenom vs i3. Definitely much more power consumption by the Phenom, but it doesn't necessarily translate into more heat. One thing to note if you look through the rest of the comparison, the setups use different graphics cards. The Phenom getting a 6870, vs the i3 getting a 6850. Which is why it performs better in games.

My vote still goes for whichever of these processor that you want/you can get for cheaper, and focus as much money on the GPU as you can, that is definitely what matters most for gaming.
Again, for the prices we are looking at it's a $13 difference. The i3 costs nearly the same but performs much better and it definitely produces less heat.

We're comparing 45nm with 32nm.

I don't see how it's so hard to understand you can get the same GPU with either setup and the i3-2100 is clearly superior in games.
    
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Why are my posts from another thread being brought in here as argument, when it's a different situation entirely?
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Again, for the prices we are looking at it's a $13 difference. The i3 costs nearly the same but performs much better and it definitely produces less heat.

We're comparing 45nm with 32nm.

I don't see how it's so hard to understand you can get the same GPU with either setup and the i3-2100 is clearly superior in games.
OP: If you can await, all signs point to BD coming out in a week. I wouldn't suggest buying it just because it is the newest thing, but the FX 4100 might be a solid new contender in your price range. Wait for the benchmarks.

http://www.pccanada.com/Inventory.as...ING%20FANS#AMD has the FX 4100 listed as $125 new in canadian (If you go to the Intel processor section, you can see that the i3 is a bit more expensive there as well.) If he needs it now, go for whichever, buy an i3 if you want, I really have nothing bad to say about the processor. Or if you can wait a week, wait for the benchmarks, and have more options to choose from. Also, AMD and Intel might drop prices after the release, OR you could find something used on the marketplace here for cheap.

P.S. Bulldozer will use AM3+, so keep that in mind when MOBO shopping.
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Well I read all of the posts made, and I want to say thank you to all people who made input. I have decided to stay with the x4 955 though. If he ends up needing more performance I can always help him OC. I have also decided to change the graphics card to a 550ti. Though I know the 460 has somewhat better performance, for the games he'll be playing it wont matter. But of course if a deal for a 460 pops up I will go back to that. In the new build I changed out the mobo for a much better one, changed to a better psu (is 500w enough?) and switched out to a different case.

Tell me what you think.

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1) Go with a 400w PSU like the Rosewill Green, Antec Earthwatts, or Corsair Builder (CX).
2) Get a higher end motherboard, something 970X or 990FX if possible for future CPU support (and a higher power phase for overclocking).
3) Go with a GTX460 1GB instead, its a faster card, and can be found around $100-110.

Otherwise, that's a pretty good build. A good 300w PSU would be more than enough for that build, but the 400w units are the best bang for your buck. The 550Ti is an absolute waste of a card honestly with the 460 1GB being cheaper and faster. The card and PSU downgrades should give you enough spare cash to go for the higher end motherboard.
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Do NOT buy a 550Ti
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Ok I will switch back to a 460 haha. Where are they cheap?
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Ok I will switch back to a 460 haha. Where are they cheap?
You can always pick one up refurb off newegg, or a B-Stock from EVGA. Nothing wrong with those cards at all.
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Well here is (hopefully) the final parts list.



Total price: $514 Shipped
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