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I'm building this Gaming Rig:

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K $229
CPU HSF: CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ $33
Mobo: Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 $145
RAM: ??
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ $59
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II OC 1GB $249
Case: Antec 300 $59
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 520W $69

I'm still not sure which RAM I should go with. I think the RAM below is the best value from www.pccasegear.com, which RAM should I go with?

Not so good value:
• G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH (1600MHz 7-8-7-24 1.6v) $135.00
• G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM (2133MHz 9-11-10-28-2N 1.65V) $129.00

Best Value:
• G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM (1600MHz 8-8-8-24 1.5v) $79
• G.Skill Sniper F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 8GB (1600MHz 9-9-9-24-2N 1.25v) $75
• G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH (1333MHz 7-7-7-21 1.5v) $72
• G.Skill Ripjaws G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL (1600MHz 9-9-9-24-2N 1.5v) $65
• G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL (1333MHz 9-9-9-24N 1.5v) $59
• G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (1333MHz 9-9-9-24 1.5v no heat spreader) $55

If you think I can get even better value RAM than what I listed, you could recommend me other ones from here?

I have a few questions:

1.) My main concern is Starcraft 2. I want to get as much FPS as possible at a reasonable cost. I did little research and apparently even 2500K overclocked can't maintain 60FPS during 1v1 200/200 match. So every extra FPS helps.

2.) How much of a FPS difference will faster RAM provide? I heard that RAM will only give maximum of 1 - 8% increase in FPS. Is it worth the extra money or is that better spent on a faster CPU?

3.) Does RAM get cheaper overtime or more expensive? Is it a good idea to frequently upgrade to a faster RAM if it gets cheaper?

4.) What's the minimum RAM latency and speed you need to overclock 2500K to 4.5GHz or 5.0GHz?

Note:
- Even though the RAM will be used for my Gaming Rig, I may decide to use the RAM for my multitasking PC someday. Which is why I'm planning to get a 8GB fast RAM.

BTW I live in Australia so I always use this search engine to find the cheapest PC parts: www.staticice.com.au
Edited by Bountysky - 10/4/11 at 9:46pm
post #2 of 11
My sticky thread always get's missed frown.gif

Here, this may help: http://www.overclock.net/intel-memory/1085715-overclocking-choosing-ram-sandybridge-h67-p67.html

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post #3 of 11
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM (1600MHz 8-8-8-24 1.5v) $79

I have these and they run great for me, you probably won't notice a difference if you were to get more expensive ram though.

or

G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM (2133MHz 9-11-10-28-2N 1.65V) $129.00


Edit: I knew munaim1 was going to beat me. frown.gif
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Sorry I didn't see the sticky. But thank you, that makes my decision little easier. It would still be nice if people could answer my questions though.
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Quote:
1.) My main concern is Starcraft 2. I want to get as much FPS as possible at a reasonable cost. I did little research and apparently even 2500K overclocked can't maintain 60FPS during 1v1 200/200 match. So every extra FPS helps.

2.) How much of a FPS difference will faster RAM provide? I heard that RAM will only give maximum of 1 - 8% increase in FPS. Is it worth the extra money or is that better spent on a faster CPU?

3.) Does RAM get cheaper overtime or more expensive? Is it a good idea to frequently upgrade to a faster RAM if it gets cheaper?

4.) What's the minimum RAM latency and speed you need to overclock 2500K to 4.5GHz or 5.0GHz?

1. IDK
2. Money would be better spent on a better gfx card
3. RAM gets cheaper wink.gif
4. Any would do, speed doesn't affect overclock sb overclocking is only multiplier based

Answered smile.gif Need any clarification?
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http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/dram_production_cuts_continue_time_stock_memory
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With that many DRAM makers pulling in the production reigns, the market might see prices go up as inventory gets low. DRAM makers aren't toying around with minor cuts, either. Nanya decided to cut production by 20 percent. Inotera, which supplies memory chips to Micron (parent company of Crucial), is cutting production by up to 10 percent, while Elpida is on pace to produce 20 percent less chip in the third quarter. But the biggest reduction so far belongs to Powerchip, which cut DRAM output in half.
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post #7 of 11
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I finished reading the benchmarks and the sticky. This is what I found out:

1.) It seems like there's a reasonable jump from 1333MHz CL9 to 1600MHz CL9 and for only $10 more, that's probably worth it.

2.) But there's hardly any jump from 1600MHz CL9 to 1600MHz CL8 and for another $14 more, I'm not sure if it's worth it.

3.) So overall, it looks like 1600MHz CL9 is the sweet spot in terms of price and performance. Beyond that, the price doesn't really justify the performance gain and it's better to spend the extra cash on CPU or GPU.

Things I learned:
  • Higher speed makes more of a difference than lower latency in almost everything.
  • Best value 8GB(2x4GB) RAM - 1600MHz CL9 or 8
  • Best value 4gb(2x2GB) RAM - 1600MHz CL7 or 6
post #8 of 11
Any CL9 kit should be fine.
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Originally Posted by Bountysky;15184402 
I finished reading the benchmarks and the sticky. This is what I found out:

1.) It seems like there's a reasonable jump from 1333MHz CL9 to 1600MHz CL9 and for only $10 more, that's probably worth it.

2.) But there's hardly any jump from 1600MHz CL9 to 1600MHz CL8 and for another $14 more, I'm not sure if it's worth it.

3.) So overall, it looks like 1600MHz CL9 is the sweet spot in terms of price and performance. Beyond that, the price doesn't really justify the performance gain and it's better to spend the extra cash on CPU or GPU.

Things I learned:
  • Higher speed makes more of a difference than lower latency in almost everything.
  • Best value 8GB(2x4GB) RAM - 1600MHz CL9 or 8
  • Best value 4gb(2x2GB) RAM - 1600MHz CL7 or 6

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post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by munaim1;15184536 
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Okay thanks. I decided to go with G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM (1600MHz 8-8-8-24 1.5v) $79.

I know there's hardly any difference between 1600MHz CL9 and 1600MHz CL8 but it only costs $14 more and I prefer the blue heat spreader.
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