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Nope, I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.

First, they're comparing liquid cooled apples and air cooled oranges, and second...

I like big cases!

No, actually my thinking on liquid cooling is why don't we get the dang fans and radiators the hell out of the room so we can have a quiet rig? Otherwise, fill that big case up with huge heatsinks, put a big squirrel cage fan like you see on industrial blowers on the back and stick your head inside a motorcycle helmet with speakers inside it and an LCD screen for a visor.

All we need now is a pilot's seat and weapons controls from a military surplus F-16 cockpit.

Hmmm.... NAW! That's just goofy.

Hey, I've got an idea for Tom's. Why don't they look into what can be done about making a real small machine, in an actual desktop case, you know like we had back in the 80's!
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Originally Posted by ReignsOfPower View Post
your rig fail much more btw..
YOU are the one bashing this pc whiles YOURS are STILL inferior.. and btw, i never mentioned mine, so you fail AGAIN

Your PC its INFERIOR from the start and you still brag about it!?!?
how dumb can you be??




BECAUSE:
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Originally Posted by Foolsmasher View Post
And your rig is so special, ....why exactly?
LETS SEE:

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The computer they built is better than the one you posted. Not sure where you're coming from on this.

Sandy @ 4.8 vs 920 @ 4.2. Dual 580's OC'd by 10-15% versus a 590 which gets trounced by two stock 580s already. Way nicer SSD drives. Way better GPU cooling. Way better RAM. Should I keep going, or...


Yep..

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just because it isn't a full custom doesn't mean it doesn't deserve respect
They shouldn't be marketing it as such to get more views.
    
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I'm not sure where I bragged about my own. I laughed simply because its not really what people here would define 'water cooled'. We think custom loops, rads etc. Not H80-esque stuff. Anywho's buddy, be well and lets move on shall we
Edited by ReignsOfPower - 10/6/11 at 5:44am
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you must not be serious...

thats quite a bit more GPU power than you, or I have in a smaller case. being able to do that with off the shelf components its pretty neat.

trust me, i would love to bash Toms as much as anyone, but that's a pretty clever build...... just because it isn't a full custom doesn't mean it doesn't deserve respect
My point is, most enthusiasts would go with an open loop. And you could do it in the space provided, too. It would get cramped, but it is certainly doable.

The closed loop design is nice for a "set it and forget it" setup.
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My point is, most enthusiasts would go with an open loop. And you could do it in the space provided, too. It would get cramped, but it is certainly doable.

The closed loop design is nice for a "set it and forget it" setup.
Really there is no shame in going for a closed loop if it works for you.I'm not really sure what's with the whole lot of female dogging these days , you get maybe 10% better performance on average for alot more setup cost depending on the length of the tubes and the quality of barbs ofcourse.

I'm sure they are really just trying to "prove a point"(you know , thread title) , which we all know , that an mATX rig will be just as powerful as your standard build to the masses provided that you optimize your build in terms of cooling.Their cooling isn't the best you can afford , but neither is it sub-par either.Cut them some slack on this one guys.
    
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Are those 2.5" drives?
It looks like the bottom two are, yes.
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I love all these guys with like 10+ hard drive bay in their super towers and they only use one hard drive or two hard drives at most. Picking up their computer case gives them a herniated disk. C'mon.

The reality is mATX boards have historically been on par performance wise with full size ATX boards, and in even some instances surpassing them. There's been a changing paradigm to offer all the benefits of ATX in a smaller mATX package. Most users will never need those extra expansion slots.
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I love all these guys with like 10+ hard drive bay in their super towers and they only use one hard drive or two hard drives at most. Picking up their computer case gives them a herniated disk. C'mon.

The reality is mATX boards have historically been on par performance wise with full size ATX boards, and in even some instances surpassing them. There's been a changing paradigm to offer all the benefits of ATX in a smaller mATX package. Most users will never need those extra expansion slots.
This. I never liked having a huge tower taking up room so I simply made a smaller computer. Don't hate because the mATX machine is better than yours.
     
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Really there is no shame in going for a closed loop if it works for you.I'm not really sure what's with the whole lot of female dogging these days , you get maybe 10% better performance on average for alot more setup cost depending on the length of the tubes and the quality of barbs ofcourse.

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But there's nothing to fiddle with constantly if you go closed loop.

Yes, it's overkill to do more than what they did on Tom's, but this is OCN and overkill is a way of life here.
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