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The Class/Job system is a bit confusing.

For example. I don't quite understand why Thaumaturge would get access to Cure but when Thaumaturge goes into Black Mage it suddenly loses that.

All "Classes" can use any ability from any other class as long as it isnt locked by mage or melee. But the Jobs are different. Each job is a mix of 2 classes, I guess BLM is THM and ARC. So it can only use abilities from those two classes, plus one more (cant remember) it should be able to use physik or w/e the ARC healing spell is just not cure since that is CNJ/WHM
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ArmageddonAsh lol I know exactly the troubles of even attempting to try to start the game tongue.gif
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I have already emailed them. Awaiting a reply. It is not a huge game breaking issue but it is VERY annoying. Other than that. I am enjoying the game. The crafting and Gathering system is VERY good. One of the best i have seen. The Class/Job system is a bit confusing.

For example. I don't quite understand why Thaumaturge would get access to Cure but when Thaumaturge goes into Black Mage it suddenly loses that. It is a decent system but think it could have done with a few more Job types. A Blue Mage kind of class/Job would have been quality, i loved The Materia from Final Fantasy 7 that allowed us to learn enemy skills and it was always a MUST max out on playthroughs because it was so fun trying to find them all.

yeah I wish they had a class for CARD GAMES!!! YES!! I liked the card games in previous final fantasy games so they could make something amazing in design. Also they could have a world leader board of card players and have a King of Cards. The King of Cards is given a suit and/or trophy for being number one in the world, and he would have to play a top match against an opponent on a time bases to keep his top position in the craft. Yes I have dreamed of this add on for some time tongue.gif
     
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they will be adding in the golden saucer casino which they will be adding a number of different games to over time.
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As above, why did you have to create many characters? One character can do all classes and jobs, and are not locked down. You can instantly switch classes and gear sets given you have them.

The only cutscene unskippable are the beginning scenes.

If you're going to judge a game based on early combat, skipping the story, and comparing to other games this quick, then I can only say "good luck", my friend.

Other things I am not going to judge on.


I created more characters to see the animations and to get a "feeling" of the race in the game, not in a preview screen.
To see how they run and jump.

I created so many because I didnt like any.

The character is the most important element of an MMO. It starts with it and you will have it on your screen at all times.
Running and jumping are 2 things that you do the most in an MMO.

Blizzard spent months perfecting the jump animations in WoW, for example. With motion capture.

I don't care how big the world is or how diverse the enemies are if the character does not move in a fluid "natural" way.

For example, the Roegadyn run like pansies. I seriously laughed my ass off when I took the weapon out.
The Hyur male moves and runs like a female.

I'm only bashing the game for its out of place character aninations and interface.
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I created more characters to see the animations and to get a "feeling" of the race in the game, not in a preview screen.
To see how they run and jump.

I created so many because I didnt like any.

The character is the most important element of an MMO. It starts with it and you will have it on your screen at all times.
Running and jumping are 2 things that you do the most in an MMO.

Blizzard spent months perfecting the jump animations in WoW, for example. With motion capture.

I don't care how big the world is or how diverse the enemies are if the character does not move in a fluid "natural" way.

For example, the Roegadyn run like pansies. I seriously laughed my ass off when I took the weapon out.
The Hyur male moves and runs like a female.

I'm only bashing the game for its out of place character aninations and interface.

I can't believe I'm biting, but here we go. Remember I'm not arguing with you, but rather pure discussions.

You can like or hate a game for whatever reasons you want, as it is yours to play. I only said what I said as from your previous post it read like you had shunt the game before you even gave it a shot. To be honest, it still reads that way a little, as you do not seem to have given the game's lore or world a fair chance yet. You're the one who paid $20 or so for it, so why not give it your best until your trial runs out?

As for character animation, to each their own. No, it's not hollywood level of CG. But it is in real time, and you seem to be implying SE has not done any level of motion capture, which you cannot know in anyway. Remember that A Realm Reborn needed to be cut down from 1.0 for various - most reasonable - factors. There are animations that do feel static at places, I certainly agree with you. But it is not a deal-breaker in anyway, nor do I class it as "immersion breaking". The game itself has various tone at different times, be it fun and silly, and serious when it wants to. The casual "in middle" level of emotes and animations show that. Jump and running animation I do not see a problem with, given the battle system's requirement.

Again, I have to point out how one should not compare a game point by point on a scale at this point. It is only the player's loss to do so.

Now onto my opinions. I judge a game on its gameplay. IF I had judged ARR by graphics, I would have turned away. I love SE's graphics, good or bad. But ARR's lack of proper AA or some bad optimization really grinds on me, for how much I love most of their graphical work. I blame the PS3's requirement, but I digress. I kept playing and WILL keep playing as the gameplay itself is fun, and there are loads of contents to explore and experience. The graphics is not sub-par, but rather I expected more from SE.

But of course, if the gameplay isn't for you, then sure. As I said, to each their own, and no one is to judge. However, I only find it fair if you gave the game another shot. Then you can hate it all you want, no questions asked.

Good luck, my fellow OCNer. I hope you find an MMO you can love and enjoy, be it FFXIV ARR or not.
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I played FF14 ARR when they first released it late last year. I only made it to lvl 20 and quit. I have done many searches on google and on FF14s Reddit page and NOTHING mentions whether or not this game has a good storyline.
So im curious, and without any spoilers, did SE put any creative effort into the storyline comparable to FF7, FF8, FF9, Chrono Trigger/Cross, Legends of dragoon?
Im also curious, as they brought back "Coast De Sol" from ff7 but basically all i saw was a beach with a few small "Shacks" nothing from what i remember from ff7. Will the Golden Saucer look anything like the one we all remember?
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I played FF14 ARR when they first released it late last year. I only made it to lvl 20 and quit. I have done many searches on google and on FF14s Reddit page and NOTHING mentions whether or not this game has a good storyline.
So im curious, and without any spoilers, did SE put any creative effort into the storyline comparable to FF7, FF8, FF9, Chrono Trigger/Cross, Legends of dragoon?

I wouldn't say the story is better than 7, 8, or 9, but I did like it more than 10, 12, and 13.
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So who here has their atma/animus weapons?
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So who here has their atma/animus weapons?

My first month just ran out and I've just gotten to endgame and still working on tomes... It's like you get to level 50 and feel more a n00b more than ever. Working on iLevels, farming, etc...
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Im sorry everyone for my lack of updates/posting will get back on this!  Between the game and real life with my significant other and college its been rough with times!

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