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Sure, 10 times more power doing 10 more of the exact same work might only double subjective quality, but there are going to be better ways to spend that extra power.
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You all are giving this guy a really hard time. He is just defending the companies position to release crysis to console. He didn't say anything that isn't true either. His point was that graphics power that isn't properly or efficiently utilized doesn't make a very big difference. Also, using more powerful hardware doesn't necessarily promise a much better visual experience.
Nothing can give better visual experience unless the Devs put it there for the hardware to render. Which is the case in Crysis 2.
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Sadly, taking half the power of the GTX580 and shoving it into the console would yield the consoles either matching or outperforming current gen hardware.

Consoles have much better efficiency in anything rendering then dedicated PCs. I have no idea why the driver teams have not addressed this issue successfully. At the current generation of graphics levels, our cards should be yielding over 100 fps constant when compared to the efficiencies of the consoles...however, this is so far not the case. Ugh.
This is why I hate PC to Console comparisons. Consoles are completely different than PC. They run in a different environment. They do not have the overhead that PC does. Their hardware can be used to it's full potential and them some.

If a new Xbox were to launch today with say, a GTX 460 type GPU, I would bet you it would be producing visuals that our best PC's today would choke trying to reproduce. It happens every generation. Eventually, PC's get powerful enough that they close the gap and make consoles look quite dated but then a new gen comes about and changes that landscape yet again.

Rinse Repeat.
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A pc can handle a game 100x times better than GT 5 graphically, so don't feel proud of it.
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Double the visual fidelity is actually HUGE when you factor in the millions of polygons that modern games are capable of. Going from say 3 million to 6 million polygons with only 10 cards in SLI/Crossfire (if it was possible with 10 cards) is quite huge.
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This is why I hate PC to Console comparisons. Consoles are completely different than PC. They run in a different environment. They do not have the overhead that PC does. Their hardware can be used to it's full potential and them some.

If a new Xbox were to launch today with say, a GTX 460 type GPU, I would bet you it would be producing visuals that our best PC's today would choke trying to reproduce. It happens every generation. Eventually, PC's get powerful enough that they close the gap and make consoles look quite dated but then a new gen comes about and changes that landscape yet again.

Rinse Repeat.
While I understand your point, and this has been closer to the truth in the past, Microsoft have said the 360 will continue until 2015 (and I guess Sony are along this line too). Since PC's have already greatly surpassed consoles by anyone's criteria today, I can't imagine how badly PC games will be held back by the time 2015 comes around.
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Sadly, taking half the power of the GTX580 and shoving it into the console would yield the consoles either matching or outperforming current gen hardware.

Consoles have much better efficiency in anything rendering then dedicated PCs. I have no idea why the driver teams have not addressed this issue successfully. At the current generation of graphics levels, our cards should be yielding over 100 fps constant when compared to the efficiencies of the consoles...however, this is so far not the case. Ugh.
The reason that consoles are so much more efficient is uniformity...

The fact that every console (of a make) has the exact same internals as every other makes coding games for that system so much more painless.

When you have to code a game to run on 1000's of different combinations of hardware, with 1000's of different background software, it makes coding for the PC a nightmare, and for the drivers to be able to cope, they become very inefficient, there is a video where carmack addresses this, I'll see if I can find it.
Edited by Ishinomori - 10/5/11 at 2:39pm
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While I understand your point, and this has been closer to the truth in the past, Microsoft have said the 360 will continue until 2015 (and I guess Sony are along this line too). Since PC's have already greatly surpassed consoles by anyone's criteria today, I can't imagine how badly PC games will be held back by the time 2015 comes around.
That doesn't mean they will not introduce their successors in the mean time.
How old is PS2 now? Its still very much supported and they still sell.

EDIT: I would bet my last dollar that M$ will unveil the next Xbox at E3 2012 with a launch to follow in the fall. With Nintendo's Wii U launching next year M$ will not simply sit there quietly. I wouldn't be shocked if Sony don't drop veil on the PS4 either.
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A pc can handle a game 100x times better than GT 5 graphically, so don't feel proud of it.
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Gran Turismo 5.
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