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You are calling smartphone web browsing "outstanding", and you're comparing it to a desktop and you're calling ME blind?

wow

Again, all I'm saying is that:
-these uber powerful smartphones are being release so ppl can buy THE BEST just cause they are THE BEST
-smartphones are severely limited when it comes to doing actual work
-smartphones can't really use the horsepower cause they've got two crippling weaknesses (screen size and crappy input)

When I buy a speaker, it's obvious that I'm getting more when I purchase a floorstander with 6.5" drivers vs some cheapo plastic speakers.

When I buy my new $2500 PC, it will be clear that I have a premium gaming platform vs a $500 Acer from Bestbuy.

When I buy a Nexus Prime, other than e-peen blinding you, the benefits are NOT clear vs an older smartphone (read: one that is smooth enough that you can't notice lag, don't give me some ancient example) for all intents and purposes. THAT is my problem with these companies trying to get you to buy their LATEST AND GREATEST.
The Prime is meant to be the benchmark of which the next generation of Android smartphones will be measured against; of course it has to be powerful. It is called a flagship device for a reason.

Sure, current-gen phones are great for what they do, but of course there are people who would want the Prime for more than just the novelty of a next-gen device:

- It's a Nexus phone, so expect timely updates straight from Google
- No carrier and manufacturer bloatware whatsoever - the stock Android experience
- Availability of the device across numerous carriers
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To your first part, I tend to agree. I doubt my Droid 2 would be at too much of a disadvantage compared to a Nexus Prime.

As for your second point. I once again don't get it. I see what you're trying to say but there are many things in life that I don't need. For instance I don't need to play games on my computer when I already own a PS3 but I still do because I know it's something I enjoy. As a matter of fact I dont need to play games at all, but I do. And yes believe or not, GPS is tremendously helpful when you're in area you know nothing about. Not to mention all of the various places apps can help you avoid a crappy restaurant, or a crappy hotel, all while on the go.
Just want to say that PC gaming >>>>>>>>>>>>> PS3 gaming. The only reason I have a PS3 is fighting games (more specifically, SF).

And yes, GPS can be useful, but you def do not need one of these crazy new phones to give you a smooth experience. Which ties in to one of my main points: The things that smartphones do well are already being done well, and there really is no need for this insane hardware pace. They should either figure out a new use for them that truly taxes hardware, or they should stop focusing on hardware, and start focusing on creating better input devices and better software.
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Just want to say that PC gaming >>>>>>>>>>>>> PS3 gaming. The only reason I have a PS3 is fighting games (more specifically, SF).

And yes, GPS can be useful, but you def do not need one of these crazy new phones to give you a smooth experience. Which ties in to one of my main points: The things that smartphones do well are already being done well, and there really is no need for this insane hardware pace. They should either figure out a new use for them that truly taxes hardware, or they should stop focusing on hardware, and start focusing on creating better input devices and better software.
Check Tegra 3 demos. Some games and apps requiring physics and post-processing/lighting effects already tax Tegra 2 so much, so the quad-core prowess of Kal-El is needed.
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If that's your point than I agree for the most part. You just had a funny way of showing it lol. Either way, you're right. More work has to be done in terms of user experience, and in the creativity department. However that's also one of the reasons people are so excited about the Nexus Prime. It'll be the first phone to utilize Ice Cream Sandwich which is supposed to be all about improving the user experience and tying in Android Phones and Tablets.
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If that's your point than I agree for the most part. You just had a funny way of showing it lol. Either way, you're right. More work has to be done in terms of user experience, and in the creativity department. However that's also one of the reasons people are so excited about the Nexus Prime. It'll be the first phone to utilize Ice Cream Sandwich which is supposed to be all about improving the user experience and tying in Android Phones and Tablets.
Also, better optimization with full hardware acceleration. I feel that ICS can potentially increase the lifespan of current-gen Android devices, because the prospect of delivering smoother performance all around will not anymore warrant higher-specced phones for most users.
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Soon.


So I take it you're set on the Prime, or at least heavily considering it at this point?
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You are calling smartphone web browsing "outstanding", and you're comparing it to a desktop and you're calling ME blind?

wow

Again, all I'm saying is that:
-these uber powerful smartphones are being release so ppl can buy THE BEST just cause they are THE BEST
-smartphones are severely limited when it comes to doing actual work
-smartphones can't really use the horsepower cause they've got two crippling weaknesses (screen size and crappy input)

When I buy a speaker, it's obvious that I'm getting more when I purchase a floorstander with 6.5" drivers vs some cheapo plastic speakers.

When I buy my new $2500 PC, it will be clear that I have a premium gaming platform vs a $500 Acer from Bestbuy..
I didn't directly call it outstanding. I said it does an outstanding job of replicating a desktop browsing expierience, and you are more than welcome to use my X10 to see for yourself.

It seems to me that you are assuming people buy these devices for mass productivity and work, not as a tool to aid in work and daily life. I do not disagree with you at all that if someone bought a mobile device, be it a tablet, smart phone running iOS, Android or WP7 for high productivity work they are kidding themselves.

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When you buy a Nexus Prime, other than e-peen blinding you, the benefits are NOT clear vs an older smartphone (read: one that is smooth enough that you can't notice lag, don't give me some ancient example) for all intents and purposes. THAT is my problem with these companies trying to get you to buy their LATEST AND GREATEST
I partly agree. It depends on how you want to look at it. Do you see the iPhone 4s as a viable uprgade for an iPhone 4 owner? But how about as an upgrade for an iPhone 3GS owner? It's the same with the Nexus prime.
I was almost tempted to purchase a SGSII recently because community development on the X10 slowed down to almost a complete halt and I wasn't happy with its performance with a custom ROM and most definitely not the SE firmwares. Recently I have got my X10 to be about as quick as possible and I no longer want the SGSII or Nexus Prime for reasons you stated above, it simply does not offer any huge benefit to me.
Not everyone jumps on the latest and greatest smart phones, but the people that do obviously enjoy having a powerful mobile device exactly the same way you and I enjoy having powerful desktop systems.


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So I take it you're set on the Prime, or at least heavily considering it at this point?
I have been heavily considering it Between this and the iPhone 4S at this point. I want Prime to be great I've been lurking this thread over at android forums for months trying to learn about any leaks: http://androidforums.com/nexus-prime...s-10-10-a.html

It's crazy in there

Edit: Here is a quick quote from an undercover VWZ employee regarding the Prime

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While I can't specify the internals, I can tell you that the Nexus device WAS the finalist for the "Gamer and Entertainment Enthusiast", and it would have won, too.
Here is hoping for greatness
Edited by PhRe4k - 10/10/11 at 4:57pm
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I have been heavily considering it Between this and the iPhone 4S at this point. I want Prime to be great I've been lurking this thread over at android forums for months trying to learn about any leaks: http://androidforums.com/nexus-prime...s-10-10-a.html

It's crazy in there
Interesting that bits and pieces of Ice Cream Sandwich are being leaked, almost like systematically from an unknown source.

Here's what we have so far from the leaks:

- Updated Google+ app
- Updated Music Beta app
- Updated Market app
- Nexus Prime boot animation
- Nexus Prime system sounds

I think Google is playing with us.
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