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I said it in another thread on here but I think it's rather sad that simply replacing the man who does the presentation suddenly causes everyone to doubt Apple. I mean, they're doing the same thing they've always done and NOW people want to cry foul?
I think the real reason people are unhappy is because there is no 4G in any forthcoming iPhone.

I know people will say Apple has a history of waiting and doesn't want to compromise battery life but 4G is something that people expect now days in a high end smart phone, which is what the iPhone is trying to be.
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Apple intentionally gimps the 4S so suckers will buy it and feel left out when the iPhone 5 is released with "4G" and a bigger screen. Also, 1GHz dual core? C'mon. Could have been faster than 1GHz but I'm sure some iFan will come in here to tell me it's perfectly fine as is as they always do.
You think they gimped the 4S? It's a massive improvement over the 4, I'm not sure what you think they could've done. Apple won't adopt 4G technology until it has significantly less drain on battery life and until it's compact enough to fit in the 4S. Regardless, Apple claims that the 4S is as fast as its competitors "4G" phones with 14.2Mbps down.

You do realise the CPU in the 4S is going to be only about ~800MHz unlike the 1GHz in the iPad 2. I don't think they'll be able to go much higher than that without causing heat problems until they move to a smaller nm CPU. And yes, it'll most definitely be fine for a very smooth, zippy experience -- just as it is on the iPad 2.
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I think the real reason people are unhappy is because there is no 4G in any forthcoming iPhone.

I know people will say Apple has a history of waiting and doesn't want to compromise battery life but 4G is something that people expect now days in a high end smart phone, which is what the iPhone is trying to be.
There's no 4G, but it still claims the same speeds as its (pseudo) 4G competitors (14.4Mbps down).
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You think they gimped the 4S? It's a massive improvement over the 4, I'm not sure what you think they could've done. Apple won't adopt 4G technology until it has significantly less drain on battery life and until it's compact enough to fit in the 4S. Regardless, Apple claims that the 4S is as fast as its competitors "4G" phones with 14.2Mbps down.

You do realise the CPU in the 4S is going to be only about ~800MHz unlike the 1GHz in the iPad 2. I don't think they'll be able to go much higher than that without causing heat problems until they move to a smaller nm CPU. And yes, it'll most definitely be fine for a very smooth, zippy experience -- just as it is on the iPad 2.

There's no 4G, but it still claims the same speeds as its (pseudo) 4G competitors (14.4Mbps down).
It would be like upgrading from an i7 920 to a 2600k when all you do is use the internet and notepad.

The A4 proc is more than fine for what the iPhone does 99% of the time other than intense 3D gaming...which is generally a pretty ridiculous use for it to the VAST majority of the customer base.

Going from the 3G to the 4 was a big leap, even 3G to 3GS was great because the CPU in the 3G wasn't quite up to the task of running iOS properly.

So like I said, unless you're trying to play Crysis on the iPhone, you're not going to notice the A5 proc much. Once that is out of the way, all you get by "upgrading" is a slightly better camera and Siri.
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There's no 4G, but it still claims the same speeds as its (pseudo) 4G competitors (14.4Mbps down).
Still pseudo 4G. Try comparing the 4S to something like the Thunderbolt and Droid Bionic in terms of internet speed, and see which one is truly the fastest.
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It would be like upgrading from an i7 920 to a 2600k when all you do is use the internet and notepad.

The A4 proc is more than fine for what the iPhone does 99% of the time other than intense 3D gaming...which is generally a pretty ridiculous use for it to the VAST majority of the customer base.

Going from the 3G to the 4 was a big leap, even 3G to 3GS was great because the CPU in the 3G wasn't quite up to the task of running iOS properly.

So like I said, unless you're trying to play Crysis on the iPhone, you're not going to notice the A5 proc much. Once that is out of the way, all you get by "upgrading" is a slightly better camera and Siri.
No dude, your comparison is way off. Your comparing two four core eight thread CPUs, compared to a single core 800MHz processor to a dual-core 800MHz processor with a newer architecture. Not to mention LPDDR2 RAM, and possibly 1GB. Then you've got the GPUs, etc., etc.

It's not even a comparison, just as the iPad 2 is significantly snappier than the iPad, so too will the 4S be significantly snappier than the 4.
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Still pseudo 4G. Try comparing the 4S to something like the Thunderbolt and Droid Bionic in terms of internet speed, and see which one is truly the fastest.
Yeah, I know. Are these released phones? And actually have real 4G?
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And actually have real 4G?
I pull a maximum of 48mbps on the SGSII.
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Hey, do you have a source for the RAM? Been trying to find a legitimate source about it, I am hoping for 1GB but I am still preordering it anyways.
iphone 4s is allegedly still 512 MB ram.

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...facturing.html
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I pull a maximum of 48mbps on the SGSII.
Mmm, I see. That's pretty cool.
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