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Is speed the only thing to consider when choosing a system ? personally I think not.
Of course not. Since the AMD is easier for you to install, choose that.

I'm sorry but even comparing the "difficulty" of installation of the two processors made me pretty much disregard everything you said.
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You haven't showed any proof that can reflect something. Low res games and low detail games don't count, neither games that are intel optimized. A google search will reveal that I'm not the only one that don't gain any FPS from unlocking the cores.

1680x1050 is lower for gaming purposes. FHD reflects what gamers use the best, so no, your benchmarks don't mean anything. However, the benchmark from guru3D at FHD does.

For general use - not only image editing, video encoding will be a lot faster, but also other tasks that utilize some of the Phenom II horse power.

About the power consumption - so? What do you want to explain with that? It doesn't mean a lot to a person that has a sufficient cooling and power supply. I is not a disadvantage of AMD. And no, it is not faster in games, only in those that are intel optimized or/and games that don't utilize all of the phenom II cores. This will be improved in the future.
Aboy the link you provided - the user stated that the AMD system didn't disappoint him, and most of the advantages (of the 2500K, not 2100 (???)) are OC ability, power consumption and thermal performance.

I think I'll stick with my AMD despite your ridiculous theory
Lower resolutions put more load on the CPU and is a better benchmark for the CPU. 1680x1050 is not a low resolution.

So the i3-2100 performs just as well as any CPU in gaming but consumes much less power and produces less heat.

I hope you realize general usage programs are geared towards single and dual cores because that's what are in the vast majority of computers. The programmers care a lot more about people with core 2 duos than i7s since there are a lot more people with core 2 duos. General usage is not faster on an X4. You're also neglecting the i3's hyper-threading.

Higher power consumption and more excess heat isn't a disadvantage for AMD? What fantasy world do you live in?


As I have shown already, the i3-2100 is faster than the Phenom II in heavily threaded games such as BC2.
    
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Of course not. Since the AMD is easier for you to install, choose that.

I'm sorry but even comparing the "difficulty" of installation of the two processors made me pretty much disregard everything you said.
Well at least he didn't question the resolution and detail settings of a game used to benchmark cpus.
    
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Well at least he didn't question the resolution and detail settings of a game used to benchmark cpus.
I think you're point went over my head...
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Lower resolutions put more load on the CPU and is a better benchmark for the CPU. 1680x1050 is not a low resolution.

So the i3-2100 performs just as well as any CPU in gaming but consumes much less power and produces less heat.

I hope you realize general usage programs are geared towards single and dual cores because that's what are in the vast majority of computers. The programmers care a lot more about people with core 2 duos than i7s since there are a lot more people with core 2 duos. General usage is not faster on an X4. You're also neglecting the i3's hyper-threading.

Higher power consumption and more excess heat isn't a disadvantage for AMD? What fantasy world do you live in?


As I have shown already, the i3-2100 is faster than the Phenom II in heavily threaded games such as BC2.
It shows how CPU handles the game at lower resolution, bur DOES NOT reflect real world performance. Gamers want to push their system to the limits, so your argument gets disproved.

Is the phenom faster at video editing? Yes. Image editing? Yes. Encrypting? Yup. That dual core won't last and won't suffice for long. Quad cores are much more typical for today. I went from an intel dual core to a quad core, and I notice the difference in many fields.

Temperature - excess heat? Huh?? Never heard of "excess heat". The phenom II is warmer, but no "excess heat" there. I lol'd at that.
Power consumption means nothing to me.

BC2... I showed that the Phenom II matches the 2500K there. LOL.

Balla, I facepalm every time I see a post of yours, you'd rather comment as little as possible. I'd rather attribute importance to real world settings, not settings and resses from stone age.
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yes, going AMD gives them money and keeps money away from intel, thus helping to keep things competitive instead of slipping into complacency
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yes, going AMD gives them money and keeps money away from intel, thus helping to keep things competitive instead of slipping into complacency
I would rather AMD got faster than cheaper.

I mean if it worked and AMD got more market share Intel might turn around and spend R&D money on making cores cheaper rather than faster.
    
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It shows how CPU handles the game at lower resolution, bur DOES NOT reflect real world performance. Gamers want to push their system to the limits, so your argument gets disproved.

Is the phenom faster at video editing? Yes. Image editing? Yes. Encrypting? Yup. That dual core won't last and won't suffice for long. Quad cores are much more typical for today. I went from an intel dual core to a quad core, and I notice the difference in many fields.

Temperature - excess heat? Huh?? Never heard of "excess heat". The phenom II is warmer, but no "excess heat" there. I lol'd at that.
Power consumption means nothing to me.


BC2... I showed that the Phenom II matches the 2500K there. LOL.

Balla, I facepalm every time I see a post of yours, you'd rather comment as little as possible. I'd rather attribute importance to real world settings, not settings and resses from stone age.
Could you please use complete and coherent English sentences, thanks.

Well if gamers want to push their systems to the limits they'll see the AMD bottlenecking them with any high-end GPU or dual-GPU setup. Pushing the limits and AMD don't really go together.

How many people encrypt/encode/edit honestly? If you do these things it's probably for work in which case you're using an i7. Again, for general usage the i3-2100 would be just as fast. Programmers are moving towards mobile devices and application-based operating systems. The vast majority of computers sold today are still dual-cores.

You're still neglecting the i3's hyper-threading.

Power consumption means nothing to you, good for you. Nobody cares. I think everyone else would rather have a lower TDP and less excess heat if they have the same performance.

Again, the i3-2100 is faster than the Phenom II in heavily threaded games such as BC2, consumes less power, and produces less excess heat.

I guess you need a physics lesson too. In general, when something is consuming/drawing more power, it's also getting hotter. Hope you learned something today, then again you don't see to be too quick on the draw.
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MiNitro(ll), can you please think about what you write before posting? Thanks.

AMD quad cores are enough even for high end single (or some dual) GPU solutions. I've seen a lot of systems with a 955 & 6850 CFX, and no complains whatsoever. When higher settings are set (which is what actually happens), no difference will be noticed.

People want processing power, which will be more future proof. Dual cores are too old style tech, and as I mentioned before, I have noticed a performance increase in many fields going from dual core intel processor to my B50.
The i3's HT is nice, but it is still defined as a dual core processor. It's a dual core versus quad core. I'll choose quad core any day.

You're like a broken record regarding that BC2. I showed a bench in which it matches the 2500K.

And don't teach me about physics, I know better than you. Where did I say that if a processor consumes more power, it's not hotter? Where? You should learn how to read properly, young man.
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